Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2021 May 19

= May 19 =

Waiting periods for remarriage after divorce
Dmitri Mendeleyev was technically a bigamist, because he married his second wife less than 7 years after his divorce from his first wife. He was only a month or two early, but the law was the law. The priest whom he bribed to officiate was even defrocked for his involvement.

Have any other countries (or their official religious institutions) imposed such a long waiting period between a divorce and remarriage? Also, if the divorced couple reconciled and wanted to have another go, would they have been subject to the same waiting period? --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  00:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * According to some interpretations of Islamic law, if a couple are divorced and want to remarry each other, the woman must marry a different man first (see Nikah halala). However, the general waiting period is usually only about 3 months in Islam (considered long enough to avoid any questions about paternity).  AnonMoos (talk) 09:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * For which see Iddah. DuncanHill (talk) 13:48, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Clara Lemlich speech
Is the full Yiddish-language text of Clara Lemlich's 1909 speech at Cooper Union extant? If so, could I please be pointed to it?I remember reading a book in secondary school that quoted her as saying "ondzer oynziger oysveg iz eyn zheneral-strayk", but I am unable to find this sentence, or any variation thereof, anywhere online. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 03:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Quoted in the spelling "Unzer ayntsiger oysveg iz a zshneral strayk" here, apparently copied from an illustration in the book Brave Girl: Clara and the Shirtwaist Makers' Strike of 1909. A search for אונדזער איינציגער אויסוועג or "undzer eyntsiger oysveg" also returned no results. --Lambiam 10:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The book illustration can be seen here. --Lambiam 23:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Mystery man in selfie
In the news reports regarding the murder of Cooper Harris, I saw these specific selfies. They feature Cooper and his father, Justin Ross Harris. But another man is also looking into the camera. Is there a chance the mystery man might've recognized himself on YouTube?142.255.72.126 (talk) 11:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There is always 'a chance', but this question seems to be asking for speculation. -- Q Chris (talk) 11:18, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not really, but some of the librarians here on Wikipedia could be YouTube users, right? (Perhaps that mystery man could also be one, as well.)2603:7000:8100:BD38:98AE:7970:8360:BDB5 (talk) 03:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * How would any of us know, YouTube users or not, if that man even saw any of these videos (except in the pretty unlikely case that the person in question also visits this section of the RD, in which case he might know the answer but perhaps not be inclined to make it public)? --Lambiam 16:36, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * He may have seen himself on the national news, as well. Anything is possible.142.255.72.126 (talk) 01:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Supposing he did... what of it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:15, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * He was probably attending the same Atlanta Braves baseball game as Justin and Cooper Harris. I could tell by the bleachers, and by the shirt he's wearing.2603:7000:8100:BD38:D870:5014:FEA2:5B58 (talk) 22:27, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Where can we see those selfies? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You may wish to try YouTube.142.255.72.126 (talk) 07:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That is not a very specific clue. --Lambiam 11:21, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is reasonable to conclude that the OP doesn't really want to know. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Battle of Verdun (film)
Does anyone know if this has had a recent film made? I'm thinking, in the spirit of 1917, Beneath Hill 60 etc? ('Ils ne passeront pas', a tous ici! :) 2A02:C7F:F27D:7200:704A:E442:E8FF:E545 (talk) 18:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There's a documentary about it noted here. I can't recall, nor can I find, any recent fictional films about the subject.  -- Jayron 32 19:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In geological terms, Verdun: Visions of History (1928) is "recent". Other than that, it seems to be rather quiet on the Western movie front. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Another French documentary is listed on this page, called THE BATTLE FOR VERDUN (1988) directed by Rémi Laurent. I haven't been able to find it anywhere else and I suspect that the title in French differs somewhat.
 * As for dramatised versions, Verdun was a national trauma as well as a triumph and I suspect that French film makers have found it too difficult to do justice to. Britons have similarly avoided making fictional films about the First day on the Somme. Alansplodge (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, neither the Germans nor the Russians had any qualms about filmifying the Battle of Stalingrad. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:13, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good point. Perhaps the localised street fighting in Stalingrad better lends itself to film, but I have strayed into postulation. Alansplodge (talk) 10:32, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the putative Rémi Laurent 1988 piece may in fact be a 1986 35 minute film by Bernard George which features Laurent. It is called Verdun, année 1916. DuncanHill (talk) 19:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Not a full-length film in the sense you mean, but the Swedish band Sabaton, who specialise in (factually accurate) songs (and music videos) about military history, released a 4-minute video in 2019 about the Battle of Verdun, called Fields of Verdun. You can find it on their 'Sabaton' YouTube channel (linked above), while on their parallel 'Sabaton History' channel there are two 15-minute lectures/discussions about the battle hosted by history presenter Indy Neidell. Be warned, the music video (which depicts a German assault on French trenches) is rather graphic. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.27.217 (talk) 02:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Another example (which I haven't watched) is Egon Günther's 1973 three-part East German TV movie adaptation of Arnold Zweig's 1935 novel Erziehung vor Verdun (Education Before Verdun]) ---Sluzzelin talk  17:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


 * A 2015 documentary may qualify as recent, Verdun, ils ne passeront pas. DuncanHill (talk) 19:23, 20 May 2021 (UTC)