Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2021 May 7

= May 7 =

Pro-Japanese Warlords
Were there Pro-Japanese warlords in China in the context of the Second Sino-Japanese War outside of areas occupied by Japan, for example in Yunnan or in Sichuan? Thank you. --82.48.36.71 (talk) 17:46, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Collaborationists were called Hanjian, and you'll find some information on them in that Wikipedia article. -- Jayron 32 17:50, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I am searching for the information on this flag
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me identify this flag: https://firealpaca.com/images/get/AlpacaGET_kvCKWnNm.png

I have not been able to so far! Thanks kindly! Stocktrain (talk) 19:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Where did you see it? <-Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots-> 22:06, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Canada.


 * FOTW has a listing of flags with "Crescent: points to top (white)" (see here), but it doesn't seem to be any of those. AnonMoos (talk) 00:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The blazon (in English) would start "Azure a [bird] Or . . ." (Blue background, a Gold [bird]), but I haven't been able to track it down in my own library or online. If I was forced to guess, I'd say a civic banner (i.e. of a town, city or district), European and possibly German, but I could be completely wrong.
 * The bird is a puzzle. It's not an eagle; it could be intended as a falcon, but they are most often (though not always) shown with one or two bells and/or jesses, and the attitude of the feet is odd. A hawk, merlin or gyrefalcon are other possibilities, but the crest on the head suggests something else is intended. It appears to be holding an olive branch, which heraldically is usually the prerogative of doves, but it's certainly not a dove. (Note that I'm talking about heraldic depictions and names, which are stylised and often depart rather far from nature.)
 * In Europe, crescents often have a crusading connection in their origins, and "Azure a crescent argent" were the arms of an English family called Lucy (of London, not the famous Warwickshire Lucys), but I doubt there's a connection here. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.135.95 (talk) 05:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @Stocktrain I'm coming up blank as well. Birds aren't uncommon on flags, but we're not talking about millions to sort through either; nothing is even close. As Bugs said, we may need to know more about where this was found to have a hope. Matt Deres (talk) 13:51, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You might want to look at this https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ufe.html#submissions, they are pretty good a finding unknown flags.  Zoozaz1 talk  23:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * There's unfortunately a possibility that it's just something someone made up one day, perhaps for a pseudo-historical event like a Renaissance fair or SCA activity, or as as a clueless commercial undertaking. The latter unfortunately do occur: for example, some time in the 1980s the Guildhall in Winchester was externally refurbished, and the architect/builders responsible added to the 1893 west extension's north and west exterior a number of 'coats of arms', most of which were alien to local history, apparently fictional, and in many cases in breach of the Rule of tincture. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.125.73.196 (talk) 21:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)