Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2021 September 12

= September 12 =

US law
Hello all, I am a young man who is deeply interested in US law, and since some websites are full of rude people, I guessed it is the best place to ask about what in the US is known as wrongful death suit. I like criminology (not criminals) and I read many articles; and my question goes as to why the parents and stepmother of American serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer were charged with such felony and the parents of the two Columbine shooters weren't charged with that felony. Isn't it basically the same or worse? Does the lawsuit on those grounds varies from state to state (i.e. Wisconsin to Colorado?). Well, I thank you all in advance. CoryGlee (talk) 12:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * A wrongful death suit is a civil case, while felony is a concept of  criminal law. The wrongful death claim against Jeffrey Dahmer's relatives, who had not committed a crime, was filed by some of the victims' families, not by a prosecutor. The Dahmer case threatened to turn into somewhat of a circus when these families sought to auction off items used by Dahmer to torture and kill his victims. The families of the victims of the Columbine shooting may not have felt that it was appropriate to sue the parents of the shooters.  --Lambiam 14:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * According to the articles Jeffrey Dahmer and Columbine High School massacre, in both cases the relatives of some of the victims filed wrongful death suits. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:41, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Chains by Frigyes Karinthy
Hi, is the short story Chains by Frigyes Karinthy published in English in any book? Amisom (talk) 12:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * If the story is the one from 1929 translated as Chain-Links, it's available here . Xuxl (talk) 13:03, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks but I was specifically looking for a published version? Amisom (talk) 13:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * In terms of finding the story in a book, the most likely candidate is the anthology Grave and Gay, published in 1973 and 1980 by Corvina Press, ISBN 9789631309072. However, I can't find a table of contents for that book so I can't confirm whether that particular story is part of it. Xuxl (talk) 13:15, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Tibetan claims to British India
In our article about the Tibetan Army it is written that: Its claim to adjacent territories controlled by British India, however, strained its vital relations with Britain and then independent India, and then China's relationship with the latter.[8][9]. Two sources are given, but I'm not able to find inside them the information that Tibet, before its annexation to China, was claiming areas of British India. I'd like, if possible, to find exactly what these territories were, ideally with quotes from these or other sources. Thank you! --95.238.130.59 (talk) 12:43, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The contention was the Tibetans building a fort at Lingtu, which commanded access to both the Nathula and Jelepa passes (from The Lingtu War of 1888: The First European Army in the Eastern Himalayas.). According to the British, this was within Sikkim, which we annexed as a princely state in 1853 after the Sikkimese unwisely imprisoned two wandering British doctors. Sikkim expedition is the Wikipedia article about the resulting conflict with Tibet in 1888. We don't seem to have an article on Lingtu or Ling Tu, which is a mountain, but I suppose that there are an awful lot of them in those parts. Alansplodge (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ling Tu is apparently also known as Lungthung - the Swedish Wikipedia has an article sv:Lungthung. Alansplodge (talk) 15:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * McMahon Line and Sino-Indian border dispute may have some places to start researching this... -- Jayron 32 12:41, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

When did UK press photographer Harry Shepherd die?
When did the press photographer Harry Shepherd (active in the UK in the 1930s & 1940s) die? What else do we know about him?

On a wider note, is there a directory of UK press photographers of the past? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I found a brief mention of him on twitter. He was apparently still working for Fox Photos in the 1960s.


 * https://twitter.com/MABCG/status/1261985199891587073


 * It may well be worth contacting the Press Photo History Project.


 * https://www.pressphotohistory.com/about/


 * Dalliance (talk) 12:32, 15 September 2021 (UTC)