Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2022 August 7

= August 7 =

What has been said about Mhair Tribe in this book? Please try to tell.
-- Karsan Chanda (talk) 04:50, 7 August 2022 (UTC) Karsan Chanda (talk) 04:50, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Karson Chanda, as with your previous questions, I don't understand what kind of answer you are looking for. You have linked to a scan of the book, so what is that you need help on? You can read for yourself what has been said about the Mhair tribe. Do you need somebody to translate from French? Or what? ColinFine (talk) 12:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The answer to 'or what' can be found in this post: I don't know english language. User Karsen Chandra seems to be using Google Translate to create articles in a language they don't understand, citing sources they don't understand either. I don't believe it is in Wikipedia's best interests to encourage this. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:07, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this person's talk page shows a history that borders on CIR issues (or English-language issues).  Another language Wiki might be better. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 03:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

US Presidential Election 2024 / Nominees

 * Donald Trump and selected supporters in the GOP seem to have repeatedly stated that DT was elected in the 2020 presidential election but that the result has been falsified by proceedings, by machinery or by officials involved.
 * As such, Mr DT has already been elected twice for the position of president, in 2016 and in 2020.
 * The US constitution via amendment 22 states that no person must be elected more than two times for this position.
 * Question: Can a person who believes to have been elected twice be nominated by a party to stand for a third election?  It seems that any ensuing election would contravene the letter of the US constitution.


 * Presumably, a person suffering from severe and proven perceptual delusions may be declared medically unfit for a POTUSine quadrennium, so such a nomination may not be expressed by the once GOP. Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 16:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , obviously this situation has never come up in US history until now. I can see a scenario where certain state legislatures and governors might put in place a law requiring presidential candidates to certify that they have not previously been elected president twice. Cullen328 (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There are a few issues with your premises. The first is that whether one believes something has not bearing on what actually is, and through all performative mechanisms of the U.S. government Biden is president and Trump is not. Second, your 5th presumption is incorrect, because from what I can tell at a brief glance the only expectation that a federal elected official be "fit" in terms of health is the 25th Amendment, for which it is applicable only to the current President (not candidate). Furthermore, per the ADA and OSHA, it seems that the RNC could not use Trump's mental health to prevent him from running unless they think it would interfere with his ability to perform the job, and legally that would be difficult to prove, since it would be hard to argue that Trump is any more nuts now than he was in 2020 when he was both a successful candidate and an (arguably) successful President (in that he wasn't removed from office for being incompetent, would be my argument). SamuelRiv (talk) 17:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As I'm sure everyone knows by now, Trump was not elected twice, not even in his own mind, Big Lie nonwithstanding. It's a lie that he himself doesn't even believe, it's just rhetoric. So it wouldn't prevent him from running and being elected again. Andre🚐 17:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Trump is eligible to seek a non-consecutive second term. No matter what he believes. GoodDay (talk) 18:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)


 * This is an easy one. No one can deny, not even Trump, that the person actually sitting in the Oval Office signing documents is Joe Biden. Biden was the person who was actually certified and sworn in as the president. Not Trump. But Trump claims the people chose him, and the votes were interfered with in order to produce the wrong result. So he won the moral victory, but not the actual victory. In his mind. The law is not concerned with moral victories, so that leaves him free to contest again. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)