Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2022 January 22

= January 22 =

Blake's bowels
"The great heart faltered on the threshold, And darkness took the land his soul desired" - Blake died before he could once more be there for an hour when the shade draws in beside the hedgerows. His bowels were buried in St Andrew's Church, Plymouth. Are they still there and is there a monument or memorial of some kind? Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 20:10, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Before St. Andrew's Church, Plymouth was gutted by incendiary bombs in 1941, there was a stone tablet in the floor at the foot of the chancel steps which recorded: "Admiral Robert Blake Died 17th August, 1657. Blake grown sickly returnes home and in site of this port dyeth was embalmed his bowells buried here by the mayors seat door. His corpe at Westminster among ye Kings".
 * Notes and Queries for Somerset and Dorset, Volume 28 (1960) p. 243 (snippet view). Alansplodge (talk) 22:54, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The church was rebuilt by Frederick Etchells, this is what he started with. Alansplodge (talk) 23:01, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

School and Society
I have a question that really needs the help of a librarian. There’s an old, American educational weekly known as School and Society that was started by James McKeen Cattell in 1915. The problem is, I can’t find out when they ceased publication and released their last issue. There’s some evidence it continued until the 1970s. I’ve always thought that sites like Worldcat would tell you about the publication history of a periodical, but I guess I was wrong. The New York publisher went by the name "Society for the Advancement of Education", but that name is used by a lot of different groups now. There is a group still using that name in New York that publishes the oddly-titled USA Today magazine, but I have no idea if there is any connection. What’s strange, is that after being published for so many decades, School and Society has very little to nothing written about it, as if it has been wiped off the face of the Earth. Google Books digitized many of the first dozen or so volumes, but then it just disappears. If anyone has access to information about the full publishing history run of the journal, I would greatly appreciate it. Viriditas (talk) 22:42, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Not much help I'm afraid, but I found this reference to an article published in the Summer 1970 edition. Alansplodge (talk) 23:07, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That is helpful, because when I search for volumes past 98, I can only find volume 99 published in 1971, and the trail goes cold after that.  What I still don’t understand, is why there isn’t an entry in WorldCat indicating it was published from 1915-1971, if that is indeed the case?  In other words, where do I find a detailed bibliographical entry for this periodical indicating the publishing date range? Surely, that must exist somewhere, right? Viriditas (talk) 23:21, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * One more: I found a reference to (March 1972) “Student Strikes in East Los Angeles,” School and Society (now Intellect), 100 (2340), pp. 182-185 at Historical Student Involvement Bibliography (about halfway down the page). Maybe that means that the journal changed it's name to "Intellect", but searching for that on Google is a bit like trying to identify a John Smith. Alansplodge (talk) 23:33, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe this one? Alansplodge (talk) 23:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you’re right. There’s also this.  I just wish there was a master index for this kind of thing that could record the name change.  It’s also weird that for a magazine published for more than 50 years, there is nothing written about the name change. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Update. Only found one WorldCat entry which confirms the name change: "Continues: School and society. From Vol. 103 subtitled: The national review of professional thought." Viriditas (talk) 01:09, 23 January 2022 (UTC)