Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2022 July 15

= July 15 =

Peace-promoting anti-war art and literature
We do have a User:Boud promoted WP:Peace project. We seem to have a Category:Anti-war paintings and articles like The Apotheosis of War, I am contemplating possibilities of draft article in respect to Peace-promoting anti-war art and literature.

Requesting and looking for citation and bibliographic information regarding


 * Research about the effects of anti-war art/ literature on peace processes
 * Instances of the art / literature on building career of peace activist and leadership
 * Instances of the art / literature on to voting pro-war politicians out of power?
 * Did the art lead to creating new peacebuilding institutions?

Thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 02:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Just a quick comment that there are people who study these sort of things and get their research peer-reviewed. I'm not the best person to find specific research articles that answer these questions, though. Boud (talk) 02:29, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * There's Mark Twain's War Prayer. In the cases I know about, such art does not lead to voting politicians out of power when they're actually supervising combat, but helps set the mood for the post-war aftermath (in the case of World War I, see Nye Committee, King and Country debate etc). AnonMoos (talk) 05:04, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting information, thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 10:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Just an aside: "Peace-promoting" is redundant when you already have "anti-war". Clarityfiend (talk) 07:34, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Point noted, thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 09:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Point noted, thanks &#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 09:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Civilian support for the 2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt
Is it known approximately how many Turkish civilians supported the 2016 Turkish coup d'état attempt back then and/or what is the level of support now or at some point since then? Including both actively in the streets and passively, in principle. Also, are there any photos of civilians supporting the coup attempt? Thanks. 212.180.235.46 (talk) 18:45, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Not directly during the coup, which at the time was mostly limited to military and government officials and lacked any organized popular support; however in the aftermath and subsequent purges by the Erdogan government, the 2017 March for Justice did represent a popular response in support of the failed coup. -- Jayron 32 19:05, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it is not correct to view this march as support for the failed coup. It was a protest against the government rounding up tens of thousands of people and removing many people from their jobs, ultimately more than a hundred thousand, judges, civil servants and academics, basically anyone known to be opposed to Erdoğan's authoritarianism, under the pretext that they had been secret coup plotters. Most of these people were progressives supporting democracy and secularism, strongly opposed to coups in general, and most certainly Islamist coup attempts like this failed coup. For the craven lawless arbitrariness in charging and convicting prominent opponents of authoritarianism, see the case of Osman Kavala. --Lambiam 09:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * There are photographs of civilians who were lynched on the (mostly mistaken) suspicion that they supported the coup attempt. Publicly expressing criticism of Erdoğan, which would be implied by supporting the coup attempt, is a good way to get arrested and convicted to a long prison sentence. Since the Turkish left strongly condemned the coup attempt, supporters should not expect any pity from the opposition either, so do not expect anyone to stand up and say, gee, I wish the coup had succeeded. --Lambiam 09:11, 16 July 2022 (UTC)