Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2022 July 21

= July 21 =

Proxy wars that directly involved a superpower or semi-superpower?
Which proxy wars directly involved a superpower or at least a semi-superpower? I can think of:


 * Korean War, which involved the USA fighting against the USSR's proxies in the form of Communist China and North Korea
 * Vietnam War, which involved the USA fighting against the USSR's proxies in the form of Viet Cong and North Vietnam
 * Afghanistan War, which involved the USSR fighting against the USA's proxies in the form of the Muhajideen
 * Russo-Ukrainian War, which involves Russia (the USSR's legal successor) fighting against the USA's proxy in form of Ukraine

Which other similar cases like the ones above were there? 68.4.99.100 (talk) 00:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * In MiG Alley in the Korean War, Soviet fighter pilots and U.S. fighter pilots sometimes directly fought each other, but neither side wanted to admit it publicly at the time... AnonMoos (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * That pretty much violates the meaning of proxy war: "at the instigation or on behalf of other parties that are not directly involved in the hostilities." Clarityfiend (talk) 07:17, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * These proxy wars were proxy from the perspective of one of the superpowers, not both. Korea and Vietnam were Soviet proxy wars and Afghanistan and Ukraine were US proxy wars. 68.4.99.100 (talk) 08:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Just about every war during the cold war with superpower involvement had proxies.PrisonerB (talk) 08:13, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ukraine is not a proxy of the USA. --Viennese Waltz 07:39, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? Because Ukraine is getting a lot of military aid from the US and the West and before this invasion the US and the West have refused to rule out eventual NATO membership for Ukraine, though obviously it was not going to occur in the near future. 68.4.99.100 (talk) 08:10, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * And ever since the Maidan Revolution Ukraine has been rather decisively in the US/Western sphere of influence, other than of course both Crimea and the Donbass, which seceded from Ukraine back in 2014. Note: I'm not saying that this is actually a bad thing: Ukraine voluntarily chose to be in the US/Western sphere of influence, after all–especially after it lost a lot of pro-Russian voters as a result of Crimea's and the Donbass's 2014 secession (which it obviously opposed but which have ironically proven quite beneficial for pro-Western Ukrainians other than the death toll that the relevant warfare has produced). 68.4.99.100 (talk) 08:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

innovation to prevent wasteful spills
I saw this on Inside Edition. A young girl named Adaline Hamlin designed a lunch tray for special needs students. Her project began as a class assignment, at her high school. For less than $5 in materials, she and her school's 3D printing club produced a prototype. Does the project have a name? (Anyway, she won a 'STEM for All Award' at a state competition, (in Tennessee,) and has made the printing plans available at no cost, for any special needs students who want to prevent wasteful spills.)2603:7000:8100:F444:412:4DDE:E611:E730 (talk) 12:01, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * It's called "Stop the Slide: A Lunch Tray for Students with Disabilities".  Alansplodge (talk) 12:50, 21 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you.2603:7000:8100:F444:B432:8A56:87DD:E1B4 (talk) 11:19, 23 July 2022 (UTC)