Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2023 December 13

= December 13 =

Enhanced Games
Pageviews are rising on this article I started, and I'm not sure why. Ideas, anyone? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:27, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * An unexpected rise in pageviews is sometimes caused by technical reasons, e.g. a misconfigured bot that repeatedly requests a page. In such a case, the pageviews will be heavily weighted toward one of the "platform" or "agent" options on the pageviews site.  In this case, all platforms and all agents have risen significantly in recent days; this means that the rise really is due to many more people attempting to access the page.  I'll let others ascertain why.  Nyttend (talk) 18:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The topic seems to have been on TikTok a bit, but I'm not sure how much that means. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:44, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It might be merely that the event is (now) scheduled to take place in 12 months' time, and some news media like to use that a prompt to publish an article or at least mention it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 20:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Where did you see it's now scheduled? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The second sentences of both the lede and the first section of the article say it is "meant to take place in" and "originally planned for" December 2024. Although the article goes on to backpedal this with qualifiers, December 2024 still appears to be in some way significant for the event, so will be ringing the media "one-year-off bell" even if stories then go on to discuss its likely delays or cancellation. Perhaps you are attributing more precision or certainty to my use of the word "scheduled" than I had intended. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.215.44 (talk) 01:26, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see what you mean. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:15, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Haruyoshi Ōkawa
Please, can you help me to find a photo of him? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.21.33.81 (talk) 10:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I couldn't, but I don't know Japanese. If you don't get a good reply here, you could try asking at Commons or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Maybe you can search some old Japanese journal. 193.207.147.140 (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Otaru, Hokkaido
Who was the founder of the famous glass artigianate in that Japanese city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.21.33.81 (talk) 12:04, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding the origin of Otaru glassmaking:
 * The Portuguese introduced glass techniques in the 1800s From the late Edo period to the Taisho era (1912-1926), the manufacture of glass products developed around "glass floating balls" developed for use in the herring fishing industry, which was a major industry in Hokkaido.
 * Chiyoji Asahara is commonly mentioned as a prominent practitioner of the glass arts, but I couldn't verify whether he could be considered the "founder" of Otaru's studio glass industry.
 * See also:
 * --136.54.106.120 (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It began with Asahara Glass, but can you find who was its founder in 1900? 193.207.147.140 (talk) 18:46, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Some will perhaps name Hisakichi Asahara, but would you be aware of something which we are not? The most commonly given date is 1910. --Askedonty (talk) 18:58, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, but can you search info about Hisakichi Asahara's birth, family, career, death, etc.? 193.207.147.140 (talk) 19:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Asahara Glass was established in 1901, when founder Hisakichi Asahara started producing kerosene lamps. --136.54.106.120 (talk) 04:25, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, but about his birth and death's dates? 193.207.172.61 (talk) 12:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If it helps searching, the founder's name in Japanese is 浅原久吉. The following is translated from a section of a page on the glass floating balls on the website of Asahara Glass Works.
 * The following is translated from a section on the history of Asahara Glass Works of an article on the history of glass in Otaru on the website of the Otaru Tourism Association. Mr. Asahara, being interviewed, is Saiichiro Asahara, the 4th generation owner.
 * --Lambiam 11:52, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. According to this Japanese source, he was surely died in 1950. Can you search detailed info about it and his birth? Thank you. 79.44.90.34 (talk) 13:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 襲名 (shūmei) takes place when someone assumes the role of a predecessor, which may be upon the latter's death, but also upon their retirement. The text does not imply that the first Hisakichi was dead when Torao took on his name. --Lambiam 19:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I've understand. Then, can you continue to search his death's date? 95.245.233.160 (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 襲名 (shūmei) takes place when someone assumes the role of a predecessor, which may be upon the latter's death, but also upon their retirement. The text does not imply that the first Hisakichi was dead when Torao took on his name. --Lambiam 19:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I've understand. Then, can you continue to search his death's date? 95.245.233.160 (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Is Qoropuna in this Peruvian myth the same as Coropuna
According to this source and source, in a mythology of the Huaquirca District in Peru souls have to ascend a mountain named "qoropuna" and may get punished for their transgressions against, among other things, kitchen utensils. I'd like to know if that mountain is the same as the one discussed in Coropuna. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC) Reinhard, and from the article Nicole Fortané use 'Coropuna' and cite Valderrama and Escalante. fiveby(zero) 04:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * seems to use both spellings and 'Qoropuna' a volcano located to the south-west in Arequipa Department. fiveby(zero) 16:55, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't have enough Spanish to see if this quoting from here is helpful? Qoropuna [Coropuna] es hatun auki es decir el awki mayor [personaje de respeto] ella ordena a todas las montanas...las almas pasan por el Volcån Anoqara (el Chachani) Auqui (crown prince) and Chachani? fiveby(zero) 17:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Johan Reinhard's article here isn't much help except to suggest that maybe someone with Spanish needs to look in:
 * to confirm Juan Ossio Acuña is correct. fiveby(zero) 17:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Everything relating the account i've found, including your two links, cites Valderrama and Escalante and/or Peter Gose Deathly Waters and Hungry Mountains. Can't find Gose but "Apu Qorpuna" has:"El mundo de los de la otra vida está ubicado geográficamente en el Qorpuna (volcán situado en el departamento de Arequipa). Se lo considera como un pueblo al interior del cerro, al igual que en otros mitos"
 * to confirm Juan Ossio Acuña is correct. fiveby(zero) 17:57, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Everything relating the account i've found, including your two links, cites Valderrama and Escalante and/or Peter Gose Deathly Waters and Hungry Mountains. Can't find Gose but "Apu Qorpuna" has:"El mundo de los de la otra vida está ubicado geográficamente en el Qorpuna (volcán situado en el departamento de Arequipa). Se lo considera como un pueblo al interior del cerro, al igual que en otros mitos"