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= December 19 =

Number of or list of artists of the Pomological Watercolor Collection
Hi, and hope you're doing well! This would be a straightforward question if I didn't have conflicting information. As of today, the official USDA Pomological Watercolors site says "about 21 artists". But older sources give different numbers: a [//agresearchmag.ars.usda.gov/2000/sep/colors/ September 2000 USDA publication] says "about 50", an [//www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/how-to-trademark-a-fruit-16888575/ August 2011 Smithsonian piece] "some 65".

Since these images are public domain and in Commons (commons:Category:USDA Pomological Watercolors), is there any way we could pull a list of artists? Perhaps we can see if some artists changed the way they signed their paintings and got double-counted before the [//www.morselnewyork.com/foodart/2017/10/3/over-100-years-ago collection was unpaywalled around 2015]. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:16, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I found this blog which repeats the number of 65 artists but also says:
 * The USDA's top 3 artists were Deborah Griscom Passmore, Amanda Almira Newton (1860-1943) and Mary Daisy Arnold (1873-1955), who each painted over 1,000 watercolours. Between them, they were responsible for over half the collection. Alansplodge (talk) 15:33, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Bingo! From Huntia Volume 4 in January 1982: White, J. J., & Neumann, E. A. The Collection of Pomological Watercolors at the U.S. National Arboretum, pp. 103-123, Appendix I (p. 110 or 10/24 of the pdf) Some U.S.D.A. Artists, Late 19th - Early 20th Century.
 * There are (by my count) 64 named artists and a further 10 known only by their initials, together with the caveat; "No doubt the list is incomplete" as apparently some works are unsigned. Alansplodge (talk) 15:47, 19 December 2023 (UTC)