Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2023 July 17

= July 17 =

Jurisdiction over interstate felony murder
If a felony murder occurs across state lines (i.e. the predicate felony is committed in one state, but the death occurs in another), which state has jurisdiction? Someone who&#39;s wrong on the internet (talk) 02:04, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The law on this question is unsettled, according to this 1983 article. John M Baker (talk) 05:37, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Clarify, please. Are you thinking of someone who stands on one side of the pictured street and fatally shoots someone on the other side?  Also, please clarify the country — do you mean the US or somewhere else?  Someone told me of a case here in Australia several decades ago, in which this precise situation occurred, but I can't remember any details (even the states in question) and can't find it with a Google search.  Nyttend (talk) 23:19, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking of this case. Someone who&#39;s wrong on the internet (talk) 00:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Felony murder is an "indirect" murder. You're charged with it if e.g. you commit a bank robbery and one of your accomplices kills someone (or even, in more creative applications, if one of your accomplices is killed). --Lazar Taxon (talk) 01:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Then how was it decided that Casey White would be charged in Alabama and not Indiana? Was it a single coin toss or best of three? Someone who&#39;s wrong on the internet (talk) 00:25, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * There was a Simpsons episode which set up a case of a murder involving 5 different U.S. states at "5 corners" (which doesn't actually exist, though Four Corners does... AnonMoos (talk) 00:08, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

How many African International students stay or leave China ?
How many African International students stay and work in China after they finished their studies ? How many African International students return to Africa or move to a different country after they finished their schooling in China ? Please provide me with information or sources. 136.143.222.12 (talk) 06:36, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Rotation Day - 18th Century England
On 30th April 1783 James Woodforde wrote "About 1 o'clock took a ride to Mr Smiths at Mattishall and there dined and spent the Afternoon, it being his Rotation Day, with him, Mr and Mrs Bodham, Miss Bodham, a Miss Kitty Johnson, Niece of Mrs Bodham’s, Mr. and Mrs. Howes, and M' Du Quesne. - Mrs. Davy not there but at Dereham, on account of a little Miff between her and M' Smith - but what, we know not. We had for Dinner a Leg of lamb boiled, a Piece of roasted Beef, a baked plumb Pudding, some Crabbs, Tarts, Rasberry Creams, and hung Beef, grated", again on 15th July "I took a ride to Mattishall to Mr Smiths it being his Rotation Day… Mr & Mrs Howes not there which I think very rude, as they promised… but I apprehend they intend dropping the Rotations which… I am not sorry for, as Mrs Davy is… going to board at Mattishall"., and again on 12th November "About 1 o'clock took a ride to Mattishall and there dined and spent the Afternoon at Mr. Smith’s it being his Rotation, with him, Mr. and Mr. Rodham, Mrs. Davy, Nancy, Mr. Ashill, Mr. Du Quesne and Mr. Priest of Reepham. We had for Dinner some stuffed boiled Beef, 3 Chickens, 2 roasted, I boiled. a Piggs Face, a Currant Pudding, Syllabubs, Tartletts, Tarts, &c. &c. I did not get home this evening till 10 o'clock and a bitter cold ride we had home". I rather think I recall Woodforde going to other Rotations Days with other people too. So what was a Rotation Day? I felt sure I'd asked this before, but it seems not. Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 22:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The Rotarian from April 1928 explains the reference as "the idea of members of a social or business club as guests at their homes or places of business in rotation". It references one of Woodforde's diary entries from 13 January 1777: "It is a club meeting and it goes by the name of Rotation.  I became a member of it to-day, and they all dine with me Monday next.  Every Monday is the day". Warofdreams talk 23:40, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you - you know I said I felt sure I'd asked already? Reading your answer I feel sure someone had told me that already too!. Ain't memory odd? DuncanHill (talk) 23:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * See Lunar Society of Birmingham for something very similar. The "Lunaticks" met on the night of the full moon in each other's houses for food and then to show off the latest work they were doing in their various private laboratories. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I wonder if it's partly a pun on Rogation day (as well as the literal meaning). As a young choirboy I used to have to traipse around the streets (usually in heavy rain, as I remember) singing the Litany on these occasions. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 14:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems more than likely. Alansplodge (talk) 16:14, 18 July 2023 (UTC)