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= April 8 =

Was there an Ottomanism-like mindset within the Austro-Hungarian Empire?
Fodej (talk) 03:52, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Almost certainly not. Which historical period are you thinking of? What reasons do you have for thinking this? The Muslim Ottoman Empire had extended its territorial gains north-westwards resulting in the Siege of Vienna (1529), and the Battle of Vienna in 1683 during the Ottoman–Habsburg wars. The Ottomans would have been viewed as "the enemy" by the Christian Holy Roman Empire and the Hapsburgs for centuries. On the other hand, 18th-century European classical composers were attracted to Turkish music or Turkish music (style), but I don't think it refelected any underlying political aims. See also Ottoman Hungary. The newly unified German Empire after 1870, on the other hand, was happy to provide military aid to the Ottoman Army and Navy in the build-up to World War I, see German–Ottoman alliance. The loss of Ottoman-occupied territories after the First Balkan War would probably have been seen as a positive thing by the Austro-Hungarians. MinorProphet (talk) 13:32, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * In his Doctor Eszterhazy stories, Avram Davidson re-imagined the Austro-Hungarian empire as the "Triune Monarchy of Scythia-Pannonia-Transbalkania", whose emperor has Christian monarchical titles in two of his realms, and a Muslim monarchical title in the third, but I'm not too sure how that would have worked in reality... AnonMoos (talk) 20:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

My wording seems to have led to a misunderstanding. I was referring to whether or not there was a mindset within the Austro-Hungarian Empire that wanted to build a national identity as an Austro-Hungarian citizen, as was the case with Ottomanism. Fodej (talk) 04:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for making your question clearer. Again, almost certainly not. I suspect that the only people interested what you mght call 'Austro-Hungarianism' (like Ottomanism) were the ruling classes. I'm fairly sure that the inhabitants of the manifold consituent parts of the Austro-Hungarian Empire were much more aware of their own local identity than wanting to be subjects of a tottering empre subject to the whims of one man. I imagine this began with the Revolutions of 1848, which demonstrated a politically- and emotionally-charged resurgence of awareness of national identity. Although I just imagined the term 'Austro-Hungarianism', it actually is a word, see On the Causes of the Collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (downloadable on request). From the abstract (apparently machine-translated):
 * "The left-liberal politician O. Jászi occupies a special place in the rich Austro-Hungarianism...we show, relying on the research of O. Jászi, the psychological reason for the collapse of the polyethnic state was the cultural and mental incompatibility of Hungarians and Austrian Germans, as well as of other peoples of the Monarchy. We summarize that the economic backwardness of Hungary and the originality of the Hungarian national identity, [and] a different political culture were the deep disintegrational factors of the disappearance of one of the largest continental empires from the world political map." MinorProphet (talk) 11:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Do you have a question? What does "up to" four languages even mean? Shantavira|feed me 08:23, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * special kids from Bangkok 2001:44C8:4286:21D8:C94A:392E:B1E3:E94E (talk) 09:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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German and French equivalents of Books in Print
The Books in Print series (Google Books link) is a reference work that lists most books currently published or distributed in the United States. I swear I've seen a German equivalent of such a series of massive bibliographical reference books somewhere on the net, and I can't recall the name. In addition, I was wondering if there was a French equivalent as well? Thanks in advance. BorgQueen (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * OK I just found it: the German one is apparently Verzeichnis lieferbarer Bücher. Still seeking the French one, if it exists. BorgQueen (talk) 19:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * May be Electre: [] - AldoSyrt (talk) 08:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @AldoSyrt merci! BorgQueen (talk) 08:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)