Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2024 February 20

= February 20 =

Tashabbuh! Pl. help understand particular context

 * For curious, What is Tashabbuh? (Well still in my sandbox at very preliminary stage)


 * My questions are related to the: Foot note of Referrence no. 29 of Gustave E. von Grunebaum's [ Modern Islam: The Search for Cultural Identity] on page no 240. Contains a reference to   page 129 " Quis custodiet   custodes "II" studia Islamica "VI" " of Ann K. S. Lambton. The next paragraph in the same foot note refers to Tashabbuh.

1) I sought link to page 129 " Quis custodiet  custodes "II" studia Islamica "VI" " of Ann K. S. Lambton at WP:Library/Exchange, on that page I did not find any referrence to Tashabbuh. Whether I did not reach to right referral book?

2) When I read relevant para of ref. no 29 of Modern Islam: The Search for Cultural Identity on page 240; I did not understand context of Tashabbuh on that page. May be I did not get context since I did not know over all context of the chapter. Hence I am looking for some help to understand the context.

Thanks &#32;Bookku   (talk) 14:24, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Arabic spelling &#1578;&#1588;&#1576;&#1607; defined in the Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic as "imitation". AnonMoos (talk) 17:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @AnonMoos
 * 1) To write complete 'tashabbuh bi’l-kuffār' in Arabic, is    التشبه  الكفار okay or need change?
 * 2) Is there any article or section on this topic in ar.wikipedia or any other language wikipedia?
 * 3) Were you able to see preview of page 240 of " Modern Islam: The Search for Cultural Identity"? Because my main question is regarding the same.
 * Thanks &#32;Bookku   (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the correct term is التشبه بالكفار (al-tashabbuh bi’l-kuffār), as used for example here and here. Used in context, the short name تشبه alone will be understood to mean the imitation of infidels. --Lambiam 13:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * The book Cosmopolitanisms in Muslim Contexts contains a chapter "Cosmopolitanism and Authenticity: The Doctrine of Tashabbuh Bi’l-Kuffar (“Imitating the Infidel”) in Modern South Asian Fatwas". --Lambiam 23:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes I have already started sourcing a little from them. Though recent English language academic literature is limited but seems well researched and extensive enough to write a detailed encyclopedic article. Expanse of the topic seems quite vast enough. I looking forward to build a thorough and well collaborated article on the topic.
 * There would be lot of media and academic literature in many global languages. I suppose intermittent help to confirm linguistic aspects of the topic would be needed. &#32;Bookku    (talk) 02:12, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Remember (though you probably haven't forgotten) that sources don't have to be in English. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 176.24.45.226 (talk) 08:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes of course &#32;Bookku   (talk) 14:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes of course &#32;Bookku   (talk) 14:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)