Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2014 August 23

= August 23 =

German Phrase
I am an avid wargamer, and love watching war films. I speak German, but there is one phrase I hear very often, which I cannot understand. In WW2 games and films, there is quite often a phrase shouted by the Germans. It sounds like 'Sammy Tater' (as if it was a name spoken in a British accent). Can anyone guess what this might be? KägeTorä - (影虎) (Chin Wag) 04:50, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I assume this should be "Sanitäter!", a shout to attract a medical support person. --188.22.100.23 (talk) 05:47, 23 August 2014 (UTC)  Oops, --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 05:48, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. The English equivalent is "Medic!" —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:07, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers. I had guessed it was a cry for help, due to the context. I just couldn't work out the actual word. Thanks. KägeTorä - (影虎) (Chin Wag) 07:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Either that or a plea for a clean potato. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:31, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Tscherman doesn't haff phrases. It only has Klauses. μηδείς (talk) 19:48, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Funny, how different people hear differently. I understood this word (yes, obviously, "Sanitäter!") from the first occasion I've heard it (as I remember it was during the Blitzkrieg game, when in the game the German Soldaten were dying they shouted this). And in general German sounds to me more articulate than English, even I do know well not the first but the latter. Again during the game I understood most of the German phrases, while my German has been always very scarce, but I know English far and wide but still have problems with understanding of English speech (some accents drive me really crazy).--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * If we ever meet at a Wikimania or something, Lubo, ask me to switch codes into the pure high mountain whine of my native Southern U.S. hills accent. It will make your brain hurt, yet (I'm told) might be closer to the English of Shakespeare's time than the English of the present-day Englishman. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  14:45, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, to restore the balance I'd speak broken English with my Russo-Scottish accent.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 21:44, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

"Community driven development" vs "Community-driven development"
A Wikipedia article uses both community driven development and community-driven development. What is the correct term? --Mortense (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * They're probably both considered acceptable, with the proviso that only one version should appear in any given text. Our article, which has the hyphenated form in the title but the unhyphenated form as the opening word of the lede, is a beautiful example of a crap way to do things.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  10:01, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * What is "correct" depends on the style guide adopted by the publisher. In our case, it's Manual_of_Style, point three. In your example, our MOS says the form "Community-driven development" is preferred. See also Compound_modifier. SemanticMantis (talk) 16:59, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I do not agree that this is a style choice. I think that it is incorrect without the hyphen. 86.130.67.100 (talk) 01:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Me too. Without the hyphen it could be synonymous with "driven community development", whatever that means. —Tamfang (talk) 06:41, 26 August 2014 (UTC)