Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2017 June 2

= June 2 =

Penalty called "manner something"
I have a vague recollection that some board or card game has a penalty with a peculiar name like "manner card" or "manner point", which I took to mean it was issued to a player to suggest that they improve their "manners" (relevant to the game's rules). Web searching and consulting Wikipedia and Wiktionary for things prefixed with "manner" has turned up nothing. Does this idea ring bells for anyone else? (I could also ask Entertainment, of course, but it seems to be more about "media" than about table games.) --Tardis (talk) 05:53, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe this one? -- Jayron 32 05:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that etiquette was actually a subject of the game, but if that's the only reasonable "game" candidate then maybe what I'm remembering is some other form of ritual (which would make it that much harder to identify&hellip;). --Tardis (talk) 20:51, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried a Google search on  and  .  Only two hits looked possibly relevant, but I they both appear to refer to computer-based games, not board or card games as far as I could tell. Of the two, this one isn't in English, and this one might as well not have been, for all I understood of it. --69.159.63.238 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I played Mao (card game) a few times in college, and I remember repeatedly being penalised for "manners" because of something or another I did; I never knew what it was, and that's why I only played a few times. Nyttend (talk) 01:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes. "Manners" in Mao means "Any time you receive a penalty, you must thank the player that gave it to you." Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:47, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Un - Turkish?
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, President of Turkey, has announced a ban on the use of the word "arena" to describe sports grounds, saying "We are going to remove the word 'arena' from stadiums" as he says the word is "un-Turkish". But isn't "stadium" itself un - Turkish, being Latin derived from Greek? 81.148.187.1 (talk) 08:02, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * True, obviously. Though it might still be true that "stadiyum" has been around in Turkish longer, is more entrenched in everyday language and felt to be more assimilated as the generic common word for this kind of building, whereas "arena" might be a more recent import and only found in newly given proper names. In such a case, the feeling of greater "foreignness" would be understandable. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Pure speculation, but this may be linked to the great deal of Greek-Turkish antipathy, due to the situation in Cyprus and the Ottoman occupation of Greece during the 15th to 19th centuries. Rojomoke (talk) 13:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * From what I can tell, there still seems to be a fair amount of selective and inconsistent Turkish linguistic purist sentiment, sometimes based on linguistic misconceptions. It's not as extreme as in the days of the Sun Language Theory, but still present to a certain degree... AnonMoos (talk) 02:08, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Recep himself provided a word of explanation:

"Of course you know what they used to do in arenas in the past? They would let people be shredded to pieces."
 * I believe he is the one who is advocating the return of capital punishment in Turkey. 86.148.116.248 (talk) 07:47, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Gladiator combats, and wild-animal shows ending in the deaths of most or all of the animals, occurred in most parts of the Roman empire. (It was a status symbol for a town to have a stadium/amphitheater/arena, as well as a public baths, and other civic buildings.)  The word "arena" originally referred to a sandy floor suitable for soaking up spilled blood, but plenty of violence went on in ancient buildings that could be called "stadiums", I would assume. AnonMoos (talk) 08:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

.apk
I require a .apk ‘‘file type’’ to learn Arabic language, could someone help me please?

Requisite:

1) I wish to press an alphabet(s) on my ‘smart phone’ and will to hear someone translating it…

2) A ‘full course’ software with extras.

43.245.120.83 (talk) 19:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I say with respect that your request is for a commercial product that you wish to purchase, a task which is not valid on the pages of Wikipedia doktorb wordsdeeds 00:21, 3 June 2017 (UTC)