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= July 24 =

English IPA for this?
What would be the IPA in English for the name Amala Ratna Zandile Dlamini also known as Doja Cat 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 15:19, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Are there any clips out there where her name is pronounced? Takes the guesswork out. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  22:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * There are a few videos on how to pronounce this name, without supplying evidence supporting the claim that this is the correct pronunciation. They have "Amalaratna" in one word. In any case, what I hear is something like . The speaker in the second video has an accent and lengthens some vowels, which I have not attempted to notate. --Lambiam 09:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Zulu orthography is here. In Zulu the second-to-last syllable is stressed. That will create at worst a respectable guess at the person's own style of pronunciation. 93.136.103.194 (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The stresses in my IPA attempt above agree with that rule. I see that the ‹a› is a front vowel in Zulu phonology and the ‹r› is a trill, but most English speakers cannot produce these phonemes. --Lambiam 09:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)