Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2020 October 30

= October 30 =

"user has near native speaker knowledge of English"
Am I one of a very small group of people who is annoyed by the lack of a hyphen in Babel's en-4 output, between "near" and "native"? See an instance of it in User:Aaronhng's en-4 userbox, for example. I would have expected to see a hyphen there, the way there is one in the distinct Template:User en-4, which has "with a near-native level of English." Interestingly, this seems to be a command shared across Wikipedias (the Spanish and Latin Wikipedias show the same thing at least!), so I doubt I could change it myself even if I knew how.--Ser be etre shi (talk) 19:45, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm annoyed by the lack of two hyphens. I want "near-native-speaker knowledge".  Or better yet, reword to make the hyphens unnecessary. --174.95.161.129 (talk) 21:23, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they have the speaker knowledge of a near native. --Lambiam 21:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Most en-4 users use the wiki source text . Then you see a hyphen. The issue is not due to something hosted here. The user you linked to uses   This invokes the Mediawiki extension Babel. I don't know who can change this; the talk page contains the ominous text "this extension is not supported by any developer or group". The initial version of the documentation for this extension was created by User:Siebrand; perhaps he knows more.  --Lambiam 21:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm more annoyed by the number of people who have en-3, en-4, or en-5 tags that come nowhere near those levels of proficiency when you engage in discussions with them.--Khajidha (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Dunning–Kruger? --Lambiam 10:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)