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= June 6 =

More-than-full rhyme
I recently revisited Georg Trakl's poem Die junge Magd (to understand what I'm talking about see also the English translation by Daniele Pantano (though I'm not very happy with that translation) ). The poem uses ABAB quatrains, but "A" doesn't just rhyme with "A", the last word of each quatrain's first line is actually identical with that of the corresponding third line. Here's what I mean (identical words in boldface)
 * Oft am Brunnen, wenn es dämmert,
 * Sieht man sie verzaubert stehen
 * Wasser schöpfen, wenn es dämmert.
 * Eimer auf und niedergehen.

("stehen" and "niedergehen" rhyme, while "dämmert" and "dämmert" are identical)

My questions: Thank you in advance! ---Sluzzelin talk  01:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) is there a word in literary studies for a rhyme scheme where two identical (not just "rhyming") words are rhymed?
 * 2) regardless of question 1): Are there other examples in poetry where this is done systematically?


 * 1) Although rime riche has a very specific meaning in French poetry, I've seen the term applied to identical "rhymes" in other languages. In fact, Wiktionary gives a more general definition for this term:
 * A form of rhyme with identical sounds, as in "pear" and "pair.
 * The French Wikipedia states:
 * Rhymes between identical sequences of more than one syllable (in particular between homophone words) are considered very differently depending on the language: seen as imperfect in English, they are on the contrary valued under the name of rimes riches in French.
 * The article goes on to call the holorime "the extreme case". --Lambiam 07:55, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * In German, de:Identischer Reim. --Wrongfilter (talk) 09:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Arguably, it's more of an epistrophe than a rhyme. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 09:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks, everyone! ---Sluzzelin talk  20:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)