Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2009 September 16

= September 16 =

character needs to escape a cell
Hi. I have two characters stuck in a cell, with a metal bed frame, a mattress, a metal sink, and a metal toilet. They either needs to escape, or cause a disturbance so the guards will investigate and he can steal the keys. One of the bolts on the sink is loose. (If you're wondering why it's so specific, it's an online RP, someone else set the situation.) Can you think of a way to get out using what was given? 70.179.52.204 (talk) 01:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Can one fake an illness, and when the guard stoops to check on him, the other could purloin the keys? Or better yet, have one fake a heart attack, and when the guard comes to check on him, as he stoops, he could freak and grab the guard in fake desperation like all "I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK HELP!" and then grab the keys that way?  Just some ideas... -- Jayron  32  02:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yelling FIRE! might get more immediate attention. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think prisoners have very many fire-starting materials in their cells. That's a good idea for rape, though. ~ Amory ( user  •  talk  •  contribs ) 03:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Those are good ideas. You might also consider taking apart the sink, causing a flood - first thing that jumped to my mind. ~ Amory ( user  •  talk  •  contribs ) 02:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * He left out the part where the guard shoots them dead for trying to steal his keys. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The mattress might be of some help in subduing the guard, as might the removed bolt (as kind of a makeshift blackjack). It might be possible to tie up the guard using strips of metal from the bedspring. I couldn't find anything in Google on this subject. As with most of these crazy stories, some outside-the-box (or cell) thinking is needed. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The rules say we're not supposed to guess. But unless someone knows the answer somehow, what else can we do? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 03:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, the other RP'er didn't specify there was a specific way out of the room. He just expected me to find a way using the tools given. Remember the characters are also wearing pants, shirts, coats, shoes, etc. if that helps expand options. 70.179.52.204 (talk) 03:57, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia editors suggesting ideas for RP games. I think we've entered a new realm of geekery here..... ;) 80.193.130.5 (talk) 08:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I'm too late, but the most elegant solution yet is this--Rallette (talk) 09:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Using the loose bolt remove the sink from its fittings, turn the bed frame on its side, call the guard in, knock out the guard with the sink, steal their clothes, repair the sink, put the guard in one prison's clothes, hide in the bed as if asleep, make a bit of noise, walk out with one prisoner behaving a little wildly and the other (in the warden's uniform) trying to hold 'em down, breeze through security as the manic movements make it difficult to recognise you're not one of the guards, once you're out, make a run for it. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 13:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * ... or ... tell the DM that you're really in no hurry, and you are happy just sitting in the cell playing patience, so why doesn't he cut to the chase and explain his ingenious escape route, so that that you can say how clever he is and then get on with the quest. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Try to knock the plaster and lathes out of the ceiling and climb out. Often this is a weak spot.Froggie34 (talk) 16:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)DT

Use the loose bolt to spend 20 years carving an escape tunnel through the wall. Adam Bishop (talk) 16:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Remove a piece of pipe from the sink supply line, and make the guard think it is the barrel of a gun. Lock him in the cell and take his keys. Get the drop on the other guards and lock them all in the cell, taking all the keys. Unlock the weapons locker and get a submachine gun. Go to the garage and drive away in the Sheriff's personal car. Dillinger escaped this way from an "escape proof" jail, starting with either a gun barrel carved from a bar of soap, or a piece of wood picked up in the exercise yard. Edison (talk) 20:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * If the cell is the right width, have them both brace themselves near the ceiling - called chimmneying in mountaineering I think - so that the gaurd sees what looks like an empty cell and opens the door to investigate. Then they can either hope the guard leaves the door open when he goes away to report the disapearrance, or they can jump on him when he enters the cell. Any other means of getting the gaurd to enter the cell without having reinforcements might work, such as pretending to be very ill or dead. 78.146.166.183 (talk) 21:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * If it is a non-prison situation, the mattress springs could be straightened and used. Polypipe Wrangler (talk) 07:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

guidelines about a project on trading in shares
I am a student of F.Y.B.C.B.I and want some information regarding trading in shares about demat account, procedure of demat accounting, doocuments and the sponsors and all other related information for preparing my project. can u help me for the same? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manjiri rangnekar (talk • contribs) 11:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * There is some information in our demat account article. Gandalf61 (talk) 13:08, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

ACORN/OAKWILT
Many a Tweet hashtagged with "impeachobama" use the tags "ACORN" and "OAKWILT". What do these latter two mean? 80.193.130.5 (talk) 14:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ACORN is an acronym for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which was an issue in the the 2008 presidential campaign associating Democratic candidate Barack Obama with its alleged voter registration and other improprieties. -- Deborahjay (talk) 14:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't know about OAKWILT, but ACORN might relate to this. TastyCakes (talk) 14:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Though it's a good question to ask what, if anything, this really has to do with Obama... though some people will go for anything! "Oak Wilt," uncapitalized, refers to a disease that kills oak (acorn-producing) trees, which is, well, a little disturbing, if people are implying that is what should be done. --98.217.14.211 (talk) 21:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Runaway Rat
My pet rat ran away about a week or two ago. We just caught her today in the kitchen. She is very filthy, and her fur and tail feel oily. Also, her left hind foot looks bruised, and she is limping on it. What should I do for her, and are there any diseases that she could have that could be fatal to her or the rest of the family? Westernrider2991 (talk) 18:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This would seem like veterinarian advice, which we are not really qualified to give. Googlemeister (talk) 18:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just beware of any vet named Dr. Katz. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)