Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2012 July 8

= July 8 =

Colusa Ca Population
2010The 2010 United States Census[3] reported that Colusa had a population of 5,971. The population density was 3,255.3 people per square mile (1,256.9/km²). The racial makeup of Colusa was 3,944 (66.1%) White, 54 (0.9%) African American, 107 (1.8%) Native American, 80 (1.3%) Asian, 28 (0.5%) Pacific Islander, 1,510 (25.3%) from other races, and 248 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3,128 persons (52.4%).

152%  ??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.131.226 (talk) 01:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I followed the link to the government census page and the numbers don't match what's in the article. It says the total population was 21,419, for one thing. 13,854 (64.7%) white, 195 (0.9%) black, etc. User:Carlossuarez46 added the info; maybe he's using a different definition than what we think he is. Why not drop him a note on his talk page? Incidentally, the talk page of the article is usually the best place to bring these types of concerns. Matt Deres (talk) 03:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I think my numbers are for the county rather than the city (county seat). The numbers are still off. Here's the numbers for the city:

RACE Total population	5,971	100.0 One Race	5,723	95.8 White	3,944	66.1 Black or African American	54	0.9 American Indian and Alaska Native	107	1.8 Asian	80	1.3 Asian Indian	27	0.5 Chinese	12	0.2 Filipino	18	0.3 Japanese	10	0.2 Korean	3	0.1 Vietnamese	4	0.1 Other Asian [1]	6	0.1 Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander	28	0.5 Native Hawaiian	3	0.1 Guamanian or Chamorro	2	0.0 Samoan	0	0.0 Other Pacific Islander [2]	23	0.4 Some Other Race	1,510	25.3 Two or More Races	248	4.2 White; American Indian and Alaska Native [3]	47	0.8 White; Asian [3]	18	0.3 White; Black or African American [3]	10	0.2 White; Some Other Race [3]	116	1.9 The number of Pacific Islanders is way out of whack. Perhaps others are as well. Matt Deres (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the numbers on race add up to 100% (or perhaps slightly more, due to rounding). The "52.4% Hispanic," however, is not factored into that, since the U.S. Census Bureau regards Hispanic as a national origin not a race.  To wit, they may be of any race. Pine (talk) 05:43, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, and believe it or not, there are even Asian Hispanics. StuRat (talk) 09:22, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Creating a graphic image of a military unit
I'd like to create the shoulder sleeve insignia for the 30th ADA Brigade, as none exists. How do I get started?--Shovonma17 (talk) 04:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Brainstorm some ideas for what they might like in it. Do they have a motto or a nickname ?  Where did they see action ?  Maybe those might give you an idea.  Then I'd sketch it out, and finally draw it on the computer.  StuRat (talk) 04:35, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * If this is their website:, I see several symbols used there, like the fleur-de-lis, symbolizing service in France, and arrows, symbolizing their motto "Always on target". Other symbols are a lion rampant and lightning bolts.  Perhaps you could expand on the "Always on target" motto by having an arrow hitting a bull's eye on a target ? StuRat (talk) 04:49, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The three arrows on the red background is the shoulder sleeve insignia.  I suspect the question is actually "how do I create an svg version of this insignia for use on Wikipedia", rather than "how do I invent a new insignia".  Shovonma, try WP:Graphics. FiggyBee (talk) 08:44, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * If so, I'd start by doing a screen grab of the image here: . And it doesn't have to be an SVG image, as Wikipedia accepts many formats, such as GIF and JPEG. StuRat (talk) 09:16, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

25th K.R.V Band
My husband's Great Grandfather was presented an ebony band master's baton in 1876, the inscription on the baton reads:- 'Presented by the 25th K.R.V Band to Mr.E.Sayers, 27th May 1876'. The accompanying letter shows Mr.E.Sayers' address as 3, Gibson Street, East Greenwich, London. We know that this was his address and that he was a musician, from the 1881 Census return. What we don't know is, who or what were the 25th K.R.V Band and why he received the baton. Was it a military band? Thanks for your help. P.Sayers. Patsayers (talk) 06:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Greetings Pat, I think your husband's great grandfather may have been part of the Kent Rifle Volunteer Corps, I have no knowledge of them but the letters and dates fit very nicely if you check this site. His particular corp isn't listed there but it looks like a good place to start. Good luck. Richard Avery (talk) 07:18, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * See Volunteer Force (Great Britain) for some general context. Alansplodge (talk) 12:01, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Some more information about the Kent Rifle Volunteer Corps in this forum. Alansplodge (talk) 01:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

ENGINEERING COLLEGES
PLEASE tell me how to know the top ten engineering colleges with mechanical as the branch in karnataka — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijay ssbj (talk • contribs) 09:07, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I Googled "top 10 karnataka engineering colleges mechanical" and found several sites offering rankings based on a variety of criteria. This could be a good first step for you. -  Ka renjc 21:18, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Bikini vs. underwear
Tipical summer question here. Why seeing a women in her underwear is more "naughty" than seeing the same wome in bikini when both cover the same. By the way, I have googled it and all comentary about the question makes it look like that this is just a woman concern. I, for one, feel more aroused seeing a woman in underwear than in bikini, even if I couldn´t explain why (although to be fair I have only seen one friend in both bikini and underwear, without, ahem, getting any action)

Well I´m interested to know if the deskers can answer this riddle of the ages.85.55.202.61 (talk) 11:49, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Does it have to do with the fact that there are time that it is perfectly acceptable to wear a bikini in public (like in the beach) because it's the suitable attire, while only wearing underwear in public is frowned upon? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Undewear is not meant to be seen by anyone except the wearer (and her significant other, if she has one). --Viennese Waltz 13:31, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It's the cultural context. Since underwear are defined as naughty, we view them that way.  The same is true of bare breasts, which are seen as ho-hum in some cultures.  In some Islamic cultures, a woman's face is seen as "naughty", so needs to be hidden from unrelated males.  In Victorian times, a woman's ankles were considered naughty, and thus men would get aroused when they saw them. StuRat (talk) 17:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that more than half of the young women here in Romania go topless at the beach, but they wouldn't show off their bare breasts in any other situation in public... 109.97.188.181 (talk) 17:33, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * There's also "situational normality". For example, men who might be comfortable naked or showering together in  a locker room wouldn't normally choose to shower together at home. StuRat (talk) 20:41, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * However, note that a bikini may be made out of thicker fabric, designed to hide the vulva, especially when wet, and may have padding in that specific area, while underwear may not, since they figure the clothes worn over them will serve that purpose. StuRat (talk) 17:20, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Underwear is known by everyone to serve several absorption functions (go click it!) over time that a bikini displayed for a few sunny hours is neither expected to do, nor to remind the viewer of. DriveByWire (talk) 23:06, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Who was it that made the joke about people who live in those african tribes where people barely wear a loin cloth and a nose ring? A night out at the strippers would include a lady getting on stage and removing her nose ring, to the braying of the male crowd: "Whoa! Check out the top lip on that one!".. Vespine (talk) 02:09, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Relevance? DriveByWire (talk) 09:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * It's describing how what is and isn't naughty is culturally specific, which is relevant to this Q. StuRat (talk) 18:53, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * And it's relatively smirk-worthy which is never a bad thing...... gaz  hiley  13:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Old telephone box, UK
What were button A and button B for? Kittybrewster &#9742;  13:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * You had to put your coin in before you dialled the number. If the person answered, you pressed button A to speak.  If there was no answer, you pressed button B and you got your coin back. --Viennese Waltz 13:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * And they didn't think to label them "talk" and "refund" ? (The labels could point to the buttons, if not enough room to write that on the buttons directly.) StuRat (talk) 17:07, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Here is what Kittybrewster is talking about. I never met anyone who couldn't understand the button A and button B system. Like making jam sandwiches or a cup of tea, when you've seen it done once you can repeat the procedure Richard Avery (talk) 18:44, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Why should they waste money on superfluous letters, when A and B would work perfectly well? Don't you know there's a war on? Or there was when this machine was designed (I think)... --TammyMoet (talk) 18:51, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The instructions were normally written on a sheet attached to the wooden wallboard, and as the phones were exported to non-English speaking countries and as phone call charges went up, the instructions could be easily localized and altered. I used those phones as a youngster in the 1970s and while I needed to stand on something to reach the phone (really), they just didn't need complicated instructions. They were being phased out in Ireland in public phone boxes by the late 1970s, but I remember seeing them well into the 80s still in use in hotels and pubs in places off the beaten track. Now off to quietly have a mid-life crisis  FlowerpotmaN &middot;(t) 19:49, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * A million schoolboys with excess time and optimism pushed that "B" button a million times in the hope that a previous caller might have forgotten some money in the box. Once would be enough and the button was slow to return. Little Britain's Las Vegas. DriveByWire (talk) 22:53, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I remember my father answering the telephone and saying "press button A". Kittybrewster &#9742;  23:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that explains all the calls I made in London where someone answered and then couldn't seem to hear me. And all the coins I lost, too. "Furriners" are not likely to know this system; I have never come across it anywhere else, and certainly not in North America. The phone booths I was using had no instructions. You can't learn by watching once if you have never had an opportunity to watch. Bielle (talk)


 * Isn't half the fun of travel all about experiencing unexpected and baffling practices? --  ♬ Jack of Oz  ♬ [your turn]  00:42, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * We're talking about a long time ago though. They had already gone from London in my 1960s childhood, but I found one in rural Wales on a school trip in 1971 and the nice operator lady told me which button to press. Alansplodge (talk) 01:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I last made a call from one in 1987 in a telephone box on a minor road to Farr near Bettyhill, which is about as out of the way as it gets in the UK - I hadn't used one for at least 20 years at the time. Mikenorton (talk) 21:11, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a picture of one here and here. Alansplodge (talk) 01:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And more information here. Apparently there were 20,000 of them in Australia too. Introduced in 1925, it was replaced by the "Coin Telephone No.1" in 1966 (told you so!). Alansplodge (talk) 01:37, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, I remember them well. I'd have said they lingered some time past 1966, but don't hold me to that.  (1966 was an excellent year for Wikipedia, btw.)  --  ♬ Jack of Oz  ♬ [your turn]  01:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think "started to be replaced" would be more accurate. I suspect that London was first in the queue. Alansplodge (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not too late to rescue an old telephone box. They were warm refuges on windy days and little islands of light in remote locations at night. I think they used a special lamp bulb to discourage theft. The pictures don't show the telephone directories that hung beside the money box. The money box was robust against vandals, but the handset cord and occasionally one of the many window panes were vulnerable to their malicious attention. Boxes often smelled of urine and/or the previous caller. DriveByWire (talk) 14:10, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

When I first moved from province BC to Alberta I put .25 in to make a phone call. No luck after a few tries. I angrily dialed 0 to ask what the problem was and she said phone booths were .35 in Alberta. Motto is: Read the instructions before you get really frustrated.--Canoe1967 (talk) 16:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

My "Engology" entry has been deleted. Why?
Why has me "Engology" entry been deleted??? Fintan Lynch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engology (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Your article was speedy deleted and made into a redirect to engineering technology. Here's the final state of your article prior to deletion: .  The notice at the top explains the reasoning.  Here's the edit history for the article: .  StuRat (talk) 17:01, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The article was not deleted, only redirected. You can see why by looking at this older version, dating to June 21. Basically the complaint was that no evidence was provided that the term is actually used by anybody in a notable way. Looie496 (talk) 17:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally, Fintan Lynch appears to own engology.com. —Tamfang (talk) 22:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Quick fix for error on Millikan High School
The wiki for Millikan High School in Long Beach, CA has the correct information in body, but not at the top where the location is listed as a hot link right under the title. I don't know how to correct this and don't want to learn wiki language for this. I tried to edit, but I don't see where this link can be edited online.

The body of the article states Long Beach, CA, which is correct, but the link immediately under the title states Longbeach, Florida which is INCORRECT.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RA-Millikan/106200209418819#!/pages/Millikan-High-School/112125525467170?sk=wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.113.70 (talk) 19:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * We have no control over how Facebook reuses our content. Our article on Millikan High School has it in the correct location; Facebook's confusion of Long Beach, California, with a town in Florida is their error. You'll need to contact Facebook to see if you can get them to fix the error. Deor (talk) 19:55, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Ooh Wiki - Ms. Bright Sondia that is is back hopefully in business
July 8 2012

Dear Wikipedia Management and Technology Department,

Good Afternoon and I pray that where ever you all are - things are going to look great, grand, and gracious this end of fiscal year; plus a travel to some place in Slovakia for a new role of Global Knowledge.

Question A1: How can I purchase Wiki Leaks and can you find the owner if he is still not in jail?

Question B2: Is it possible to derive a code from C++ or D-programming which is a decoder to stop Tagging, Misconception of Password Cracker, and get Amazon back on my side for technology books that are reasonable and not too costly.. Yes I did apply for a position but did not here back from them. I have a new account with hotmail now so comcast.net is not around. If you would like to take my position as Board of Trustees Member just ask them. All my emails were confiscated not by me but hackers which were not Ethical. Military - www.wikipedia.gov have you thought about that?

Question C3: Is Google online for www.google.mil or better yet investment with me on Throat Surgery and Technology for Better Hearing Aids for the Deaf and Mute?

Question D4: My Coding Strategy only given to you with patent and intellectual property rights.

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A McDonalds Code - Interview hopefully Tuesday in town here - Maryland now.

How does it fit in? My persistence to learn another language in coding and foreign for investments outside of Intellectual Property based on Technology Stocks for DNA Sequencing in Pharmaceuticals and Wikipedia Notations on Information on Research and Development. Me. yes now Bipolar after I left in 2000. L4 needs to be taken out I believe.

Take Care and Good luck - use my email or call I can't give that out but it's prepaid. Sondia Remmielehkun Bright (Naomi Orion Justine Eastman Carrington) the real name. (Shh) Ha aha I don't know how secret but it's time for revealing.

Any Auctions. Get me back or help me save my back. (:-p) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbright426 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow. 109.97.188.181 (talk) 21:26, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I would hat this, but someone might think I was joking, or insist it wasn't a request for medical advice. Then there would be at least three new threads triggered.... μηδείς (talk) 21:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Medical? He mentions 'jail'. So shouldn't that be - not asking legal advice? --Aspro (talk) 22:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * As in mental health. μηδείς (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * On seconds thoughts... maybe it's his homework questions. I once had a tutor that set these sort of mind expanding problems. --Aspro (talk) 22:54, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The answer to these, and all your future questions, can be found at http://www.timecube.com. StuRat (talk) 23:26, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, he really does go on and on and on, doesn't he. Like the peace of God, he "passeth all understanding".  --  ♬ Jack of Oz  ♬ [your turn]  00:16, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

There is a page for DYK blurbs that get a record number of hits. Is there some sort of similar BotRD page we can archive this question to? μηδείς (talk) 04:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)