Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2012 October 11

= October 11 =

Facebook accessed by employers and hiring managers
Is it correct that Facebook is the number one source accessed by employers/hiring managers for info on the integrity and character of future employees?173.64.197.161 (talk) 03:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you mean versus other social websites or versus every other source of info ? In the latter case, I'd expect that checking references is more important. StuRat (talk) 03:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the OP is vague but they didn't ask which is more important. As I read it, they asked which source is accessed more.  Dismas |(talk) 03:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have heard similar but I question the relevance, not all employers reference it and those that do usually reference blogspot, youtube, myspace, twitter and the like. I have not heard of a large corporate or governmental employer that only accesses facebook though I have heard news stories where prospective employers are actually requesting you to "friend" them so they may access everything your contacts/friends are on your facebook and even some where they require your password so they might access it.  Not aware if those things have been resolved in the courts or if the companies have backed down on the password requests. Marketdiamond (talk) 04:22, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

In China? Definitely not. In Tanzania and Khazakstan?Almost certainly not. In the USA/Canada/Britain? I very much as suggested above, it may be increasingly used bysome companies, but it's going a whole step beyond sensible to say "the number one source". --Dweller (talk) 11:59, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

New imperialism
usa is said to be the guardian on new imperialism with concrete examples explain various method used by her to fulfill such ambition — Preceding unsigned comment added by41.188.142.2 (talk) 09:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) Please learn to use capitalisation, punctuation, and other features of written English.
 * 2) Please give sections distinctive titles, rather than just 'question'. The header of this page has already asked you to do this.
 * 3) Don't ask us to do your homework. AlexTiefling (talk) 09:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Fortunately, Wikipedia has some useful articles, which can help, if you are clear what you are looking for. I suspect that, although you ask about the new imperialism, you probably want information on "neo-imperialism". Warofdreams talk
 * IPgeolocates to Dar Es Salaam, probably on dial-up rather than broadband, may not be as Internet experienced as those of us in wealthier countries, so I don't think the lecture on capitalisation was appropriate. It does read like homework. Itsmejudith (talk) 22:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Express feeder
1) Please inform me What are the benefits of getting electric supply to a manufacturing plant thru an Express feeder? 2) What are the general rules for eligibiltiy to receive supply thru an express feeder? 3) What are the costs involved in receiving supply thru an Express Feeder? — Precedingunsigned comment added by 203.199.143.172 (talk) 11:27, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * --Dweller (talk) 11:52, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is homework at all. Considering that the IP geolocates to India and thisTimes of India article provides a reasonable explanation, this seems like a typical "help me find information" request.  Searching for "express feeder" quickly finds Ashirwad Engineering, an electrical contractor in Pune which provides Express Feeder equipment for up to 220KV electrical distribution systems.  If the OP was to take a look at that company's website they would find the 'about us' page has something to say about what an Express feeder is for, while the services page goes into more details.  However, none of that seems to answer the eligibility question or the tariffs question.  Further searching is necessary, though I got fed up looking after reading many pdfs about tenders and disputes and no basic information which didn't assume you knew all about it in the first place.  Astronaut (talk) 17:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Who is this guy?
Image. I find myself unable to conveniently right-click and copy the image to drop it into a search-by-image search. He looks familiar. To the undescribed-link-wary, it's just one of those 'demotivator' pictures with a serious-looking guy with the caption 'PROGRAMMING -- You're doing it completely wrong.' 20.137.2.50 (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I was able to use Google Image search using a little bit of trial and error. It's John McCarthy.Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The trick to getting it to work in Google Image's "search by image" search is to cut out the stuff around the photo of the guy itself. It findshim quite easily that way. --Mr.98 (talk) 13:25, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Now I remember where I saw him. From the intro to his article, "McCarthy received many accolades and honors, including the Turing Award..." That reminded me that it was on the cover of the Communications of the ACM about a year ago (probably because of his recent death at that time). It was a painting or drawing of that same portrait. 20.137.2.50 (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Problems Getting Article Published
Hi,

I submitted an article for creation a while back and it was rejected. I made the necessary corrections to the article but as of Sept. 19th haven't heard anything back. I was hoping to have someone revisit my article to see if it is fit for publication.

Thanks, Nicole Username: Nboreham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nboreham (talk • contribs) 16:06, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. This is the Wikipedia Reference desk, where we try to answer factual questions about the 'real world' outside Wikipedia. For questions about Wikipedia itself, you're better off asking elsewhere. In your specific case, try asking at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation. However, I suspect the answer is simply 'we're working on it' - there is rather a backlog with creating articles right now, with (on 3rd October) 1,348 articles currently being processed. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 16:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * While this is not an official review (primarily because I have no idea how to review and can't really be bothered learning) and as CM said, you're not really at the right place, I'll be honest with you that from the look of the current article, you have no real chance of it being created. I strongly suggest you reread the links you were provided last time your article was declined . I still see no reliable secondary sources covering the subject. In fact I don't see any reliable secondary sources at all, just a forum post, some random other wiki, some sort of coupon site and a site controlled by the subject of the article. Nil Einne (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Also looking more closely, I think you're screwed something up. It looks like you've killed all the templates and never actually submitted the article for review again. I've readded the templates. Please don't remove them as this will just confuse matters for you and possibly for others. When you are ready to submit the article for review again, please click on the link in the template which says it's for that purpose and do what it says. However I strongly suggest you do not do so until and unless you've managed to fix the problems since as I mentioned, the article is still far from being suitable for creation. Nil Einne (talk) 15:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

What happened to climate tables?
What happened to climate tables? The table that shows high, low and average temps, precipitation, etc. I've looked in the Philly and Camden entries. Others, too, but the climate tables that used to be there are missing. — Precedingunsigned comment added by 71.22.155.114 (talk) 16:13, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles are all individually edited by real people, and not the same real people. If there is an article which doesn't have a climate table, and needs it, you're invited to add it yourself.  It doesn't mean anyone did anything wrong.  It just means that no one did it.  You're someone too, so you're allowed to make Wikipedia better.  May I recommend http://www.wunderground.com/ as a good source of historical climate data.  -- Jayron  32  16:25, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I think a more useful response to "where did that information I used to use go?" would be an answer as to when or why it was removed, not a response of "go re-research it yourself." Just my two cents. --Mr.98 (talk) 16:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, because we'd really rather not have any more people involved in editing Wikipedia. It's better to not invite people to contribute, or encourage them to be members of the editing community here, or really do anything to get more people working on Wikipedia. -- Jayron  32  21:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't know editor recruitment was the focus of the reference desk. Nobody said that we don't want more people involved in editing...--Onorem♠Dil 15:47, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Mr. 98 stated in unambiguous terms that he believed my invitation to the editor to participate in Wikipedia was unwelcome. I disagreed with him.  Any opportunity to invite a new editor into the process is good, especially when such a person provides the interest in seeing Wikipedia improved.  There is no more open door to inviting a new editor in than when a person finds a problem with a Wikipedia article that needs fixing.  -- Jayron  32  16:08, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * He didn't say it was unwelcome. He said there were more useful responses available. Inviting new editors is good. Telling potential new editors that ask questions on the ref desk to do their own research and edit the article themselves doesn't seem too productive. Your reply to the question did absolutely nothing to answer it. --Onorem♠Dil 17:17, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Jayron did provide a link to a reference that would give the data the OP wants and did explain why the info wasn't there yet--he didn't only extend an invitation to edit--the rest of the discussion above belongs on the talk page. μηδείς (talk) 17:27, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * "the climate tables that used to be there are missing." - Read the question, then answer. They aren't looking for a place to find the info. They are asking why info that used to be included isn't now. --Onorem♠Dil17:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It would be helpful to know a date at which climate table were present in those articles -- we might then be able to figure out who removed them and why. I did a quite scan of the history of Camden, New Jersey, but didn't spot anything. Looie496 (talk) 17:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Philadelphia has it hidden in a collapsible box. The Philadelphia weatherbox template was made collapsed by default in September 2010.  I too had a look at Camden, NJ to see if it was simply hidden, but it seems to have never had climate data; maybe you were thinking of adifferent Camden.  Astronaut (talk) 17:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing that by "Philly" you mean Philadelphia? If so, at the end of the "Climate" section there is a grey-coloured bar which says "Climate data for Philadelphia (Philadelphia Airport)". At the right-hand end of the bar, it says "[show]" - if you click on that, the table appears, as if by magic. I think the idea is to make the article easier to browse. We have an awful lot of articles called Camden, including one here in London. Alansplodge (talk) 5:14 pm, Yesterday (UTC−4)
 * I would ride on the assumption that the OP means Camden, NJ, a city right across the river from Philidelphia. Unfortunately, I cannot find when that information was taken out. Livewireo (talk) 21:11, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Was it ever put in Camden New Jersey? Channeling Chuck Conners here: "It's gonna be cold . . . It's gonna be gray . . . And it's gonna last you for the rest of your life!" Kidding aside, love the Jersey! Marketdiamond(talk) 20:40, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * "The Jersey"? If it weren't for its unfortunate lack of deserts and a dearth of earthquakes, it would be the best state in the union.μηδείς (talk) 01:40, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Duvauchelle, New Zealand
Where may I find information on the history of Duvauchelle, New Zealand? Like where did it's name come from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.8.243.95 (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has a brief article about Duvauchelle but there's no information on the source of the name. I can't find any official website or local historical organization which has any information.  I did find find New Zealand Gazetteer of Official Geographic Names, a website run by the Government of New Zealand, so perhaps you may find information there.  -- Jayron  32  21:37, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I found TALES OF BANKS PENINSULA: NO. 6. — DUVAUCHELLE'S BAY SOUTH, which says "The name was derived from two brothers who held a couple of sections under the Nanto Bordelaise Company. They never lived in the Bay, and yet it still bears their name. It was never a French settlement at all, and the first that is known of it is that Rauparaha had a big cannibal feast just where the old tramway crossed the main road." You can navigate through some other articles in the book using the line that says "Previous Section | Table of Contents | Up | Next Section". You can read more about the Nanto Bordelaise Company atTe Ara, The Encyclopedia of New Zealand - Story: French Page 2 – The Akaroa settlement. AlsoChristchurch City Libraries - Kaitouna (Duvauchelle) which mentions "...the site of an ancient pā" (not sure what that is, but it sounds interesting!). Of course, if you can get to the actual Christchurch City Library, they will probably be able to help a lot more. Alansplodge (talk) 22:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If you wanted to read the whole of "Tales of Banks Peninsula" you can read it - I could only see parts of the book at the link I gave above. Alansplodge (talk) 22:59, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I have added a brief "History" section to our Duvauchelle article, using the sources quoted above. Alansplodge (talk) 20:30, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Astley's Cigar Pipe
I've come across Sir John Dugdale Astley, 3rd Baronet in my travels.

I noticed he appears to be smoking a cigar that's stuck into a pipe. Or is the pipe not a pipe at all but a cigar holder in the shape of a pipe? I've heard of cigarette holders, but not cigar holders. Or is it artistic licence in the spirit of the caricature; and if so, what is being caricatured? --  Jack of Oz   [Talk]  22:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * There seem to be a few cigar holders for sale on the net, but most of them are a short, straight tube. . Perhaps he was just a bit eccentric? Alansplodge (talk) 22:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I read at Cigar that "Also, cigar holders may refer to a tube in which the cigar is held while smoked. These are mostly used by women, and rarely by men".  It's odd for women to be smoking cigars in the first place, although not unknown.
 * Maybe Astley was renowned for his use of the cigar holder, something that was normally associated with female cigar-smokers, hence doubly odd. --  Jack of Oz   [Talk]  22:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * A member of the English Peerage odd? Surely not! What can you be thinking? Alansplodge (talk) 23:06, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

of the Peds By P. S. Marshall says that Astley was famous for "...the enormous cigar never out of his mouth..."''. No mention of a holder though. However, the cigar-in-pipe combo does appear in a silhouette, 1889, of Sir John Dugdale Astley, 3rd Bt by Philip William ('Phil') May at the National Portrait Gallery. Alansplodge (talk) 23:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Bingo! A snippet view of mad hatters: great sporting eccentrics of the nineteenth century, Douglas Sutherland 1987 says; "Sir John Astley, was another easily recognized figure, with his majestic bearing and distinctive cigar, which he always smoked stuck in a specially made pipe." (p.160).Alansplodge (talk) 23:27, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * And finally; the cigar-in-pipe appears in the frontispiece of JDA's autobiography, years of my life in the world of sport at home and abroad'' (1894). It looks like an amusing read, but it can wait as I'm off to bed now.Alansplodge (talk) 23:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * He took to his bed like a duck to water. Almost.  Great answers, thanks Alan,  I hereby elevate you to Lord Splodge of Wikipedia Towers.  --  Jack of Oz   [Talk]  00:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You're far too kind. Sadly, no automatic seat in the House of Lords. The nobility ain't what it used to be, don't y'know.Alansplodge (talk) 11:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Pay it no mind. For many peers who inherited their titles, the only benefit of having a Lords seat was to not turn up for years or decades on end.  They were probably too busy occupying their other Lords seats.  Priorities, man, priorities.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  21:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Quelle dommage. It would have been a good place for a bit of snooze. Alansplodge (talk) 01:04, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

In some parts of Asia, some people still smoke cigarettes in a pipe-like device.DOR (HK) (talk) 08:41, 15 October 2012 (UTC)