Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2013 February 10

= February 10 =

memorrial/military
thiepeal/britishmemamorial namesthereon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.96.186 (talk) 16:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to Thiepval Memorial? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:47, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thiepval shows the names of the missing at the Battles of the Somme in 1915 and 1916. The Menin Gate shows the names of Commonwealth soldiers without a known grave who died in the various battles on the Ypres Salient from 1914 to 1917. The Tyne Cot Memorial to the Missing has the names of those who died in the same area between August 1917 and the Armistice. The United Kingdom's national memorial is the Cenotaph, Whitehall in London, which carries no names. Alansplodge (talk) 19:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I've just noticed that you asked specifically about Thiepval. You can find details of the names at the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website; Find War Dead - THIEPVAL MEMORIAL. The results are in alphabetical order by surname, but you can change the order by clicking the arrows on the green bar at the top. I hope that helps. Alansplodge (talk) 19:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

What is your profession ?
I always see some users (like Jayron, StuRat, Wickwack, Nimur, Jack of Oz, Baseball Bugs, Trovatore, SteveBaker, Plasmic Physics, BenRG, sean hoyland, Dbfirs, Dmcq, Looie, Guy Macon, Shantavira, Whoop whoop pull up, Someguy1221, Mr.98, Wnt, μηδείς, Futurist, Gilderien, Hcobb, DMacks, Gandalf, Modocc, Ruslik_Zero, iouch!, and many others) editing Wikipedia, answering questions asked on Reference Desk, creating new articles, managing archives, and many other bulky things. Why do you do so ? Whether it is your profession or you do these things for knowledge. Do you earn money from this ? I am curious to know why you do such bulky job ? Which of the following is the main reason for your noble work ? - For money, or for knowledge, or for any other reason, or for all reasons I mentioned. Whenever I ask questions on Reference Desk, I get reply instantly whether it is day or night. Why you all remain connected to Wikipedia throughout the day ? Whether you all are working in the same building or different countries ? Want to be Einstein (talk) 16:34, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * The answers are many and varied. You might want to start at Wikipedians.--Shantavira|feed me 16:49, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * If there were more TV shows with Summer Glau I'd probably edit much less. I enjoy writing, and I type fast. μηδείς (talk) 17:54, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not for pay, it's a hobby, like collecting stamps, only much more fun and interesting. And it's also very educational. I learn new things from wikipedia nearly every day. It's the first place I look for any factual information. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:43, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes, that's a huge point. I have learned some incredible stuff from other people's threads and gotten great answers to questions of my own, often things I have wondered about for years and had absolutely no idea where to find the answer.  I read all the major popular science and news websites, for example, but find I get a much more information-dense experience here than reading the general media. A bit random here, but that's a good thing to, as it brings up things you didn't even know you didn't even know. μηδείς (talk) 19:04, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Professional imposter, you too can do it ;-) Dmcq (talk) 18:54, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * We're all around the world, so if you post something here, it shouldn't be too long before someone who knows the answer sees your question. Of course this will take longer if you ask something more specialised. --TammyMoet (talk) 20:11, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Some (most, I dare say), such as myself, work at a computer and therefore have access to both Wikipedia and other resources that can help answer questions. We also want to know things and due to that desire, also already know many things.  Not only do I use the desks to read responses on topics that I was unfamiliar with and then read the articles that are mentioned (and thus learn) but helping out also satisfies my desire to help out the world in general.  I already help out my local animal shelter, so why not help here?  Dismas |(talk) 20:37, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm a chemistry teacher by profession; but I am not currently practicing by choice; when we had children I became a stay-at-home parent during the day, and I now work some during the evenings as a private tutor. When my children are all at school, I intend to return to the teaching profession.  Having a "job" which naps 3 hours per day opens me up to having some free time to work on Wikipedia.  -- Jayron  32  20:39, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm a masochist, and I find I can be abused much more quickly and cheaply here than by paying a dominatrix to do so. :-) StuRat (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * A true masochist who's a straight male would probably prefer a dominator to a dominatrix. Then again ... --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  07:24, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I am a freelance translator, which means I use a computer for most of my day, and I have to look up information to help me in my job. There are some periods when I have no work to do, so I just read anyway, just to save time when my next job comes in, and also answer questions here on the RefDesks in my subject area. I'm also a language teacher, so I need Wikipedia to answer questions I may have in class. The questions can be quite varied, so I need to anticipate what they will be, and what the best answers should be. I don't get paid for editing Wikipedia, but I receive at least as much knowledge as (or probably more than) I give here, so it's a good thing for me.  KägeTorä - (影虎)  ( TALK )  06:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I like helping people, work in a creative industry and do my best work while thinking about totally unconnected things (some creative people may be able to squeeze out ideas like toothpaste from a tube, but my toothpaste likes to come out of its own accord when I've left the bathroom, turned the light off and gone downstairs, making me wonder if it's actually goblins squeezing the tube for me), and have a low tolerance for boredom. The Ref Desks help me with all three of these aspects of my frankly barmy personality. So actually, by you posting here, you're actually helping me and probably keeping me saner (note the comparative) than I'd otherwise be. --Dweller (talk) 11:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Like others I edit in part to gain knowledge. But it has to be something I enjoy, so I tend to stay away from areas of Wikipedia that would cause me stress or that I couldn't edit neutrally. For the most part none of us get paid, there are a few (paid editors) WP:Paid editing but they probably don't edit much outside of the area they are getting paid to work on. Also the replies you get here will be from the "good guys". The editors here are editing for the right reasons but if you look around there are other editors that come with a specific agenda. They come with all sorts of agenda. To fight nationalistic battles, ensure their favourite cause is correctly presented, ensure that "famous person" who they hate is painted as black as possible. Fortunately there are more of the "good guys" than them. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I work in computer graphics - I frequently have a few minutes to spare (ob.xkcd ref: http://xkcd.com/303/) and the reference desk is a great 5 minute mental workout. Some questions require one to employ lateral thinking - others are more like a crossword puzzle.  The best ones require one to learn something new in order to answer correctly - often resulting in an interesting trawl though some of Wikipedia's back-waters.  I'm fairly sure that I learn more by answering questions than I could by asking them.  This morning, I learned (by finding the equation and crunching the numbers) that if the earth were a black hole, it would fit into a test-tube and I realized that a pie chart that someone had posted in answer to a question was in fact useless.  OK - my compile just finished - so back to actual work! SteveBaker (talk) 16:36, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I miss mainframe days, when submitting a program to compile guaranteed me a coffee break. :-) StuRat (talk) 17:50, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Payment for editing is very rare, though someone on the Reward board is offering "€100 to a charity of your choice". I edit and answer questions as a hobby, usually whilst listening to the radio or watching TV or participating in a conversation (though my ability to multi-task is declining!)  Like others, I find that I learn by answering.  Occasionally I just know the answer, but often I have to check my facts (or wish afterwards that I had done so), and sometimes I see a question that I know very little about, but might have asked myself, so I do some research to find an answer.  I don't spend all day connected to Wikipedia, but keep coming back to it, like an addiction!    D b f i r s   18:14, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Correcting some of the dumb and useless answers certain people give is one of my main reasons for being here. Adam Bishop (talk) 22:15, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You're not working hard enough at it, I fear. --jpgordon:==( o ) 22:42, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I was going to say there are more of them than there are of us...but that's not true, they're just more prolific... Adam Bishop (talk) 00:58, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I do it for fun. I am a semi-retired professional engineer and manager, and do a number of things to keep mentally fit - answering questions on Science Ref Desk is one of them.  I myself have asked questions on Ref Desk in the past.  It seemed reasonable to return the favour to the commnunity by providing some answers in return. However, the quality of questions on Science Ref Desk is dropping, and a quite a few topics seem to get repeated (as an example, currently we have a question about whether present day humans can be clasified in sub-species.  This topic has been done to death multiple times in the past).  The quality of answers is often not to good either - though many are excellent.  Providing a good answer often attracts peanuts who are off-track or simply don't know what they are talking about. I see this with answers I provided, and I see it with answers others have provided.  So, I will probably cease contributing soon.  Wickwack 124.178.129.131 (talk) 15:05, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

mountain passes of the carpathians OR carpathian passes
Why is the Uzhok Pass missing from your list of passes? It runs between Uzhgorod and Turka. It was VERY important during wars and political and transportation issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.117.104 (talk) 18:19, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You can add it yourself. You can also create the English article.  Articles already exist in German, Czech, Polish, Ukranian, and Russian.  You can find the links to those articles at the bottom of this page. μηδείς (talk) 18:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

awkard question
how much is a corresponding bra size c in practice? --80.161.143.239 (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2013 (UTC)Italic text
 * How much what? Your question doesn't make sense.  What about bra size "c" do you want to know?  -- Jayron  32  18:48, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Flesh, maybe? The OP could check out Brassiere measurement and see if that makes his cup of knowledge runneth over. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I mean do it corresponds for example. an orange, a pear or something else? --80.161.143.239 (talk) 19:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * More like a pair, typically. But feel free to buy a bunch of different sizes and test them with various fruits. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:15, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * With the approach of St Valentines Day, and as a service to mankind, I post this article here. You're welcome. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:09, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Good article and it actually mentions something that I suggest to other men rather often, snoop! For extra money, I work customer service at an online clothing retailer.  The question that I get the most is "What size would fit my wife/girlfriend who is XXX tall and XXX pounds?"  I don't know!  But your wife/girlfriend does.  She's wearing exactly those size of clothes right now and there are likely many more examples in her drawers and closet.  So go look.  And then the part that I don't mention since it would get me fired, is that if they are ordering a clothing item now with such a short time until Valentine's Day then they are bad planners who should just go get her some flowers which do not have any size requirements.
 * when buying women clothing, for Valentines Day for instance, buy it a size or two smaller. Supply a gift receipt so she can return it "if it's too big". I imagine buying a bra would go the other direction. Gzuckier (talk) 06:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * While I understand the intention it seems to me this could easily backfire depending on the person and the relationship. It could easily be taken as a sign ou think they are too fat. May also give the impression you don't know them as well as you should. Probably far better to aim for the right size, perhaps erring on too small if needed but not aiming for it. While perhaps less likely, you may get related and the same problems for a bra too big. Nil Einne (talk) 12:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * And the other thing I've never understood about comparing breasts to fruits is the fact that fruits are basically spherical and breasts are more hemispherical, especially when contained within a bra. So if a woman has apple sized breasts (I'll leave out the debate over how big of an apple we're talking about), does that mean that an entire apple would fit in her bra if put on a flat chested analogous person or does it mean that half an apple would more correctly simulate the size of her breast?  Dismas |(talk) 20:31, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

According to Brassiere measurement,


 * Bra cup size is relative to the band size, as the actual volume of a woman's breast changes with the dimension of her chest. The volume of a brassiere cup is the same for 30D, 32C, 34B, and 36A. These related bra sizes of the same cup volume are called sister sizes. It is sometimes possible that two adjacent sister sizes will both fit a woman, since the cup volume is the same, while the band size can be adjusted to a small degree by using the hook and eye fasteners in the bra clasp.

So the fruit comparison doesn't work because it varies across band size (torso size). Duoduoduo (talk) 21:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * All good advice, but no one has yet mentioned the fact that many women don't actually wear the right size. Astronaut (talk) 17:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Might I suggest acquiring a measuring tape and using [this website]. BTW I'm one of the "rare" men mentioned on the web page linked by TammyMoet that has a list of all my beloved's clothing sizes. Roger (talk) 12:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

presidential fitness award requirements 1956 +/-
what were the test requirements for earning the presidential fitness award. I remember taking the test in 1956 or 195771.37.2.205 (talk) 20:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)