Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2013 March 24

= March 24 =

please give me legal advice
I asked for legal advice on the reference desk of Wikipedia, and they gave me advice, and it turned out badly. Can I sue wikipedia? They gave me medical advice as well. Can I sue them for malpractice.

This didn't really happen it's just a hypothetical question.--There goes the internet (talk) 00:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC) bonus question: has anyone ever try to sue wikipedia.--There goes the internet (talk) 00:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You can sue anyone you like. You can sue the milkman for delivering one bottle instead of the two you ordered.  But whether you'll be successful is another matter entirely.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  00:22, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * why would be unlikely to be unsucessful. i followed there advice and it ruined my life and i can prove it.--There goes the internet (talk) 00:24, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * We can't answer this question. Hypothetical or not...but in any case, I did what the people on the internet said I should do probably isn't likely to be such a great defense. It might be right up there with I was drunk and thought the kid was another person at the party. --Onorem♠Dil 00:30, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * (a) Yes, which is why you're not allowed to ask that sort of question. (b) See List of litigation involving the Wikimedia Foundation. Tevildo (talk) 00:27, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * thank you that is an interesting article. it doesn't sound like wikipedia ever had to cough up any money to the people who sued it! not even once! they must have good lawyer and things like this.--There goes the internet (talk) 00:30, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is a source of information.  It is not a source of advice; users should not be accessing it on that basis, and editors should not be responding to questions on that basis.  If anyone here does recommend a course of action, and you decide to follow it, and it doesn't go well, you would have no more comeback than if you'd asked some passing random stranger in the street the same question and accepted their advice blindly.  You are responsible for your life; the passing random stranger is not, and anyone at Wikipedia is not.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  01:33, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

it doesnt sound like wikipedia would be in much danger if u answered a few legal advice question. like when has anyone ever sue them and won? very few times, if ever. but i still think it's a good policy because its unethical to give ppl advice if u dont know wut youre talking about.--There goes the internet (talk) 00:35, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Has anyone sued Wikipedia and won is fine as a question. Can I sue Wikipedia in (random case) is not fine as a question. --Onorem♠Dil 00:38, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

crash landing search
Few years ago, a pilot crash landed a fighter plane. The nose and most of the cockpit had disintegrated when the plane came to the halt. Somewhat uncertain details are: plane was Harrier, landed on an american highway, and the picture depicted a rescue man helping him open the seatbelts. The pilot's face was bloody. I have been incessantly trying to hunt that image and details about that incident but I cannot find it. The image was particularly shocking because the pilot seemed alive even when most of the fwd part of the plane had disintegrated around him. Are there any military/airforce/airplane enthusiasts who remember that incident? —  Hamza  [ talk ]  02:23, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's a list of Harrier crashes outside of combat.  Most say the pilot ejected, or hit a non-populated area.  Do have any further info on what year or where the crash happened?  RudolfRed (talk) 02:31, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Given the list is exhaustive, it couldn't have been Harrier. The headline also mentioned the name of that highway. Again, my memory about that incident is very blurry. It was probably some interstate/highway named something like I8. I have been googling with different combinations of words, no luck yet. —  Hamza  [ talk ]  02:37, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * We have a list that may help: List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (2000–present). Searching it for a few keywords didn't help, but you may have better luck. You can click back to previous decades as well. 38.111.64.107 (talk) 18:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Could it have been an AV8-B? That's the variant of the Harrier that the US Marines used for a while.  They more often call them "AV8-B" than "Harrier" - and news reports may well have labelled it as such. SteveBaker (talk) 20:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Country Satellite Codes
As we all know today navigation had become advanced with the use of satellite technology.In the 9 digit Maritime Mobile Service Identity number the first three digits are the Marine Identification Digit or the MID. This MID is allotted to each country,like India got MID 419 so the MMSI number will be 419230001 for example. Like wise Ships resisted in India got the SAT_C number starting with 4419 which is the code for India. Kindly let me know such satellite codes allotted to each country. OR where can i find them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.254.56.61 (talk) 04:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Maritime identification digits Rojomoke (talk) 05:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

History of knitting
I am interested in learning about the History of knitting. I am 79 years old and have knit since I was a teenager. I have always asked questions ie:who made the first knitting needles and where were they developed?. I read a short article about an Archaeological project called "Sock It". It was developed by the Petrie Museum in London, England. It also talks about a sock that was made circa A. D. 400 to 500. It was called "the Two Toed" Coptic sock. This was the only information that was given. I wonder who did the knitting during that period? I would be interested to know more about this project. If anyone could direct me to learn more about my questions it would be very much appreciated. Dorothy Atkinson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grannylrns (talk • contribs) 09:27, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nålebinding is our article on the socks in question, and Timeline of clothing and textiles technology is a list of articles on the history of textiles. There's Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology for the museum, and, of course, knitting itself might be of interest. Tevildo (talk) 10:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * See http://www.dmoz.org/search?q=knitting.
 * —Wavelength (talk) 14:35, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * We do have a History of knitting article which notes that single needle nalebinding predates two needle knitting techniques. Rmhermen (talk) 16:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The German and Scandinavian articles on Nålebinding indicate that this ancient technique is is still in use and can be learned. Here is a short article on the Coptic Sock it project (probably the one you mention).  --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 23:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

does the christian scientist monitor say you shouldnt go the doctor
also does it have articles about medicene, or are these kind of articles ban? this is a newspaper. i sometimes read articles about new medical treatment and i am wondering if this type of article is allow.--There goes the internet (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Our article on teh Christian Science Monitor specifically says that the paper does not promote the doctrine of the church, so that does not preclude medical coverage, but I don't see anything browsing the archives that covers a specific drug trial or anything. The paper is not a mouthpiece for the religion, though it is owned by it. Mingmingla (talk) 01:10, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * that interesting that you couldn't find anything. i heard this is a very good newspaper with good journalists. it would be a shame if they weren't allowed to cover this aspect of the scientific world.--There goes the internet (talk) 01:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Why don't you call them and ask them? Here is their "Contact us" page. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I am scared of talking to religious people. But if one of the secular people answered me I could email them I guess.--There goes the internet (talk) 04:35, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * "Afraid of talking to religious people?" Come on. You can come up with a better excuse than that for continuing your trolling. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:17, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, one time these missionary knock on my door and they said i would go to hell and it gave me nightmares.--There goes the internet (talk) 05:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you're a non-believer, why would you worry about "hell"? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:20, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Stop trolling or I'll run a checkuser on u.--There goes the internet (talk) 05:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free. You better hurry, though, because you'll soon be blocked again. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:24, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

We don't read newspapers for users. If you have a request for references please make it μηδείς (talk) 02:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * They have asked a question. If you don't like it, ignore it or come up with a better reason for disputing its validity. --Onorem♠Dil 02:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * soory for delete the comment too much.--There goes the internet (talk) 02:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:DUCK. μηδείς (talk) 02:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I ask good questions. maybe ur made out of a duck.--There goes the internet (talk) 02:58, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * A duck named "Timothy", maybe? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If there's an actual request for a reference here it can be made without baiting neutral observers. μηδείς (talk) 03:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You aren't a neutral observer. You are a completely unnecessarily antagonistic and disruptive observer.  Frankly, I don't care if the OP is a duck quacking into a megaphone--you're comments in this section aren't helping and aren't welcome. Ryan Vesey 03:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I was referring to bugs, not myself. I am never neutral in regard to my own opinions, duh.  It seems the troll has gotten the rise he was looking for.  He'll either disappear or be blocked.  This is sooooooooooooooooooooo boring. μηδείς (talk) 04:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * you seem surprisingly interested in commenting on a topic that bores you.--There goes the internet (talk) 04:09, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And that's a wrap...-- Jayron  32  04:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

heron bird
do they actually transport snakes and fish from pond to pond — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.195.5.219 (talk) 23:43, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Herons are carniverous and will eat a variety of aquatic prey including snakes and fish. I don't know for sure - there are many species with varying diet and behavoirs - but I can certainly imagine a scenario where a heron catches prey and flies away, but then drops the prey over another pond.  The prey might survive capture and being dropped.  Astronaut (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * This has certainly happened I believe more or less as Astronaut describes. Whether it is ecologically significant I don't know. Rich Farmbrough, 04:29, 25 March 2013 (UTC).


 * What would be even more interesting is if herons have evolved the tendency to do this specifically to stock those ponds with prey species. StuRat (talk) 04:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)