Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2014 September 1

= September 1 =

Disembowelment
Since the bowels aren't terribly well fixed in place or attached to tendons / bone like other organs, is it possible survive if a large section of your bowel fell out of your abdominal cavity. For instance, say due to a knife wound or some other tearing injury and the whole lot simply fell on the floor. 15 or more feet of the spaghetti. Could you just pick the lot back up yourself and try and cram it back in there. Or would you be generally unconscious at this stage. If not, and you picked it all up and pushed it back in would there be any immediate health consequences beyond just stitching the abdomen back up afterwards.

Gross I know but it seems like it's one of those 'questions' outta hollywood that you just wonder about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.199.169.27 (talk) 14:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * An abdominal hernia matches the situation, except the bowel extrudes past the abdominal musculature, but not the dermis. I suffered that after a previous surgery, and wasn't operated on for a year, even though you could feel a loop of sausage under my skin that gradually grew almost a foot long, and slid in and out of my abdominal wall.  Both hernia and disembowelment are eminently survivable so long as the guts themselves are not ruptured, but there is the risk of strangulation (cut off of blood supply) with both and especially infection with the latter.  See also Truss (medicine). μηδείς (talk) 15:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Plucked from the internet at random: Disemboweled biker to make full recovery. I suspect that in a time before antibiotics, peritonitis would get you if shock didn't. Not a medical opinion, just a guess. Alansplodge (talk) 20:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Valerie Lakey had her guts sucked out of her butt (transanally disemboweled) by a swimming pool in 1993. As of 2006 (maybe today), she's still alive, though still not back to normal, despite a lot of professional medical help. Almost certainly couldn't have done it alone.


 * The intestines may seem like a chaotic mess, compared to the more rigid organs, but they're actually folded rather precisely. Like trying to refold a road map or rebox Christmas lights, ripping and tangling are common problems. If you're rushing and distracted (as a disemboweled person should be), that risk increases. Gotta remember to wash your hands well, too. They may be normally full of crap, but only on the inside. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:13, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Artur and Heitor Rocha are set to have their bowels removed from each other's abdominal cavities. That's a whole other level of complexity, but doctors figure it's possible. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:18, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Note that (per the Disembowelment article), Ms. Lakey now has short_bowel_syndrome, and must be fed intravenously. I don't know if this is because of the circumstances surrounding her accident, or if it is a normal consequence of this sort of thing. OldTimeNESter (talk) 16:39, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think it would be a good idea to push them back in immediately, because that would introduce lots of bacteria into the body cavity, and the resulting massive infection would be likely to be fatal. Better to have medical professionals disinfect the intestines first, repair any damage to them, then put them back in the proper location.  Also note that the intestines are pulled out of the body, at least in part, during some medical procedures.  My Dad had that done, to clear a blockage, but they didn't put them back in the right way and he looked "lumpy" from then on. StuRat (talk) 14:27, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe he should have had his op done by a team of taxidermists rather than those "medical professionals" you mention. :) --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Protrusion of the guts from the abdomen obviously does not kill the patient immediately, short of strangulation or bleeding out. It may indeed be better to follow our official position, sonsult a physician, in that case rather than perform a dangerous and for the time unnecessary procedure yourself. μηδείς (talk) 20:48, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Though if you can temporarily get them in and bandage up with cling wrap (or similar or handy), it'd be less risky than leaving them hanging or relying on your slippery hands throughout the wait for proper attention. I'd leave all the cleaning and sewing to the pros. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:44, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think we need to leave that to the pros or common sense at the moment, cling wrap and other bandaging may be less than sterile and prevent better treatment once the ambulance gets there. An interesting if not exactly relevant substance would be that battle wound foam but I don't know if there's an article for that. μηδείς (talk) 00:54, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The first aid notes that I found on the web echo User:Medeis's comments above and advice that I've been given on courses in the past: "Evisceration... cover organs with non-stick dressing (if unavailable, clean dressing kept wet or plastic wrap) ***ONLY IF TRAINED OR INSTRUCTED TO DO SO BY MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS***".   Alansplodge (talk) 17:52, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It happened to cat of mine (also a punctured lung), and I wrapped her on the advice of the vet's receptionist, since he was on a short vacation. Kept her going for two days, till the vet fixed her for about five years. She vanished one day, so could possibly still be alive. But yes, TAKE ADVICE FROM NON-DOCTORS WITH A (figurative) GRAIN OF SALT. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Taht's unclear. Was your cat both disembowled, User:InedibleHulk and had its lung collapsed?  Or was the lung actually punctured? Were there gust protruding? μηδείς (talk) 23:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

dakimakura question
Do lesbian girls in Japan use yuri-themed dakimakuras or is it just a male phenomenon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.56.17.68 (talk) 16:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * See Rule 34. -- Jayron  32  02:58, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Could you explain how that article is relevant to the question? I am asking about Japanese society / culture. Just because someone, somewhere might have drawn "porn" of it doesn't mean it happens in real life. 210.56.17.68 (talk) 12:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I think what Jayron means is, inevitably and undoubtedly, yes. If you're still in doubt you could always ask a lesbian.--Shantavira|feed me 15:01, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The broad implication of Rule 34 is that if you can think of any sexual situation, someone in the world is undoubtedly into that thing.  The world is a giant, divers place with billions of people.  Finding one or two into some specific kink isn't that hard; if you've thought of it, others have already thought of it and done it.  -- Jayron  32  22:27, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The world might be a big place but the question specifically asked about Japanese lesbians in Japan. So the billions and billions of people across the whole world who might be "into it" as a fetish is not at all relevant to the question of whether it actually happens in Japan. 46.209.217.173 (talk) 13:59, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, we have a limited number of contributors to the English-language reference desk, and the chance that any of them is familiar with, or able to find references covering the practices of young lesbians in Japan is rather small. Even if there are such references, they are not very likely to address the question of dakimakuras.  Marco polo (talk) 18:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)