Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2015 March 30

= March 30 =

List of USA federal budget deficits
Where can I find a year by year list of United States federal budget deficits? Thanks.2601:7:6580:5E3:38F8:A6FF:BD9E:D59E (talk) 00:36, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The Office of Management and Budget has a list of historical tables. Table 1.1 shows surplus/deficits from 1789 to date. Dalliance (talk) 11:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

provinces in Afghanistan
On the Wikipedia page that lists provinces in Afghanistan, WARDOK is missing. Not only is it THERE (in Afghanistan), it is a province in which many American soldiers have served and died and still serve. My source is that my boyfriend served for a year there. Quite a serious oversight on your page, I think. Please replace or add it. Would love to hear it's done, but you needn't reply. Would be happy if you just fixed it. Thank you, and thanks for Wikipedia! Susan P [email address removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:1600:1CA:95D6:CD38:DDEA:4898 (talk) 04:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Maidan Wardak Province 70.50.122.38 (talk) 05:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The provinces of Afghanistan includes Maidan Wardak province which is probably the one you have in mind when you say "Wardok". Dragons flight (talk) 05:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Also not to be confused with Hordak, like I did. Or, speaking of Dragons flight, Wardok the Sky Terror. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:45, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Black voting rights in white ruled countries in the 1840s
Besides some New England towns (most notably Providence) and the colonies that would become Senegal, where could the black man vote in national elections in white ruled countries in the 1840s?

Muzzleflash (talk) 08:13, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Very few countries were democracies in the 1840s, so in the vast majority of them, neither blacks nor whites had voting rights. France gained universal male suffrage in 1848, so that's probably when black men got voting rights there. Laws in many European countries, (unlike in the USA and in many colonies) have not historically made any legal distinctions based on skin color, so blacks and whites typically got voting rights at the same time. - Lindert (talk) 09:31, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * In the UK at that time only owners of property over a certain value or those who rented property over a certain value could vote. Our article say only 1 in 7 men met those requirements in the 1840s - so no discrimination by race, but discrimination by wealth. Mikenorton (talk) 11:00, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The first black person in the UK who met the property qualification was Ignatius Sancho, who voted in the elections of 1774 and 1780, just before his death. He was born on a slave ship but was friendly with the Earl of Montagu and was bequeathed money from that family which let him get established in business. -- Arwel Parry (talk) 23:07, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * As stated above, just look for the normal suffrage dates in the various European countries, as by and large, there would be no race distinction. That particular nastiness was largely confined to the colonies. 131.251.254.154 (talk) 11:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In the United States, laws on suffrage applied at the state level, not the municipal level. Every New England state except Connecticut (i.e. Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island) allowed black men to vote in the 1840s, though in Rhode Island, voters had to pay a poll tax of $1, which was close to a day's wages for a manual laborer at the time.  In New York, black men (but not white men) had to own a substantial amount of property to be allowed to vote, which meant that only a handful of black men could vote there.  No other state allowed black men to vote in the 1840s. Marco polo (talk) 18:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * At this time, substantial property qualifications in the British colonies that would later become Canada limited the vote as in the United Kingdom, but any black men who met those qualifications (probably few if any) would have been allowed to vote, at least in theory. Marco polo (talk) 18:37, 30 March 2015 (UTC)