Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2015 November 28

= November 28 =

Gay cruises for certain communities
I was unable to post this question on the WikiVoyage tourist desk because I had to ask about places, but want to know something about an actual means of travel.

Some cruise lines, such as Atlantis Events, offer international cruises exclusively for gay men. I thought taking a cruise in the near future would be nice, except that there are many different varieties of gay men, some of whom view other types as undesirable. Bears, who I identify with despite not being one, are often one of those "other types."

Do any lines break cruises down by specific types? Theskinnytypist (talk) 09:02, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * A bit of synthetic OR, but having worked for the now defunct Christopher Street Magazine I can assure you that lots of gay travel agents placed ads there in its heyday. Having also had an elderly (straight and married) travel agent as friend and a client, I was amazed by the amount of detail and specific recommendations she could give.  The best bet would simply be to contact an experienced professional who either identifies as a gay male or who works for an agency that targets gay males in its advertising.  They should be quite helpful.  As for specific types, I know they offered specialized one-day cruises broken down by type in NYC. μηδείς (talk) 17:00, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I wonder what would happen if I went to a travel agent and said I only want women of certain age and size ranges on the cruise. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:05, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Try google, both of you.--TMCk (talk) 20:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Try buggering off, TMCk, the OP is the only one who needs google, we don't even know what remote prison island he is trying to escape. μηδείς (talk) 20:58, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I meant the op and bugs. Being a little bit jumpy here it seems.--TMCk (talk) 21:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You're forgiven for being jumpy. And our link might answer the OP's questions, but I still wonder if such obvious bigotry would be legally allowable on a "conventional" cruise. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:04, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Me not jumpy one.Me not bothered much by "bugging off" talking.--TMCk (talk) 22:28, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * "Being a little bit jumpy here it seems" is presumed to be you talking about yourself, apologizing for jumping to false conclusions. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:31, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * No prob.. I swallowed the "them".--TMCk (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Back to the question BB raised, the cruises are billed as "themed". They'll sell a ticket to anyone who wants one, but the clientele are self-selecting, and the advertising is usually targeted narrowly to a specific audience.  One of the radio channels I listen to specifically advertises Catholic and Jewish themed tours with relatively well-known hosts.  For example, Dennis Prager just had an Israel tour and there are several Italian-Catholic themed tours run by local talk radio hosts from Philly.  They are not going to ask for a letter from your parish priest to book a cabin. μηδείς (talk) 23:20, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * "Theme" cruises. That makes sense. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:37, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * TMCk, you should indent one from the person you are replying to. So, if you are replying to the OP, only put one colon in front of your post.  This would have avoided the confusion.


 * Some "gay types" may be complimentary, so isolating each type might be undesirable for that reason. (Switching to lesbians for a moment, Ellen DeGeneres seems to be soft butch, but prefers lipstick lesbians.)


 * There might not be enough customers of any one particular type to fill a cruise ship, so a mix is needed for that reason.


 * Within the cruise, you could separate types by deck, events, etc. StuRat (talk) 13:54, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * By WHAT events?!! Oh, deck...... gaz hiley 14:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Shuffleboard, for example? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:37, 4 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I should also mention that there are fudge packing themed events for presidential candidates. (Yes, this is indeed safe for work). μηδείς (talk) 21:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Who was this American male bearded creative skater?
I am trying to pin down the name of an American bearded ice skater I remember, I think from the 70s but possibly the 80s. He had a very unusual style - I remember long sequences when he kept both skates on the ice and propelled himself like a skateboarder. He was certainly unconventional. He was sometimes disparaged but I remember Toller Cranston admiring and complementing him. I also somehow think I remember he had rather right-wing politics, which seemed unusual for an artistic performer.

I bet any skating connoisseur will immediately know who I mean... Hayttom (talk) 22:42, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, there's Scott Hamilton, who was unconventional and a Republican sympathiser, but not bearded as far as I can tell. Probably not him, but worth a shot. --Viennese Waltz 08:53, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Given this has lingered here so long, I wonder what would Brian Boitano do? μηδείς (talk) 03:57, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That doesn't link to a real video. I think Boi Brian wore a beard at some point, but after he had retired from competition. Rudy Galindo comes to mind, but I don't think he fits the time frame. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:44, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * OF course it doesn't, the title is What would Brian Boitano Do?, not "What did Brian Boitano Do?" μηδείς (talk) 07:01, 4 December 2015 (UTC)