Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2015 October 10

= October 10 =

Name for common error in production of print materials
I'm looking for the name for a manufacturing error that seems to occur in magazines, newspapers, and books. From time to time, I'll notice that a page has been folded in at one corner, and when I unfold it, I'll see that the edges of that corner extend beyond the edges of the rest of the page. In other words, there is extra paper material in one corner, as if the page wasn't cut properly. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Is there a term for this error? Thanks! Zagal e jo^^^ 04:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I've seen it myself, but don't know a name for it. StuRat (talk) 04:30, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * According to this dictionary of printing (entry 4543), printers call that a dog's ear (although our article deals only with dog-earing as a form of bookmarking). I wonder whether there's a different term for the situation in which the corner of a sheet is folded before being printed, so that part of the text is printed on the "wrong side" of the dog ear. Deor (talk) 11:50, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, good find! Thanks! Zagal e jo^^^ 14:18, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Why is the Stock of Linkedin more worth, than Twitter, Facebook or any other social network?
and this for years? I don´t even know how they earn money, and I am till today not registered there --Hijodetenerife (talk) 08:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * You're confusing the price of a share of stock, which is essentially arbitrary, with the total value of a company. The total valuation of LinkedIn (the sum of the values of all existing stock shares) is currently about $25 billion; the total valuation of Facebook is about $250 billion. Looie496 (talk) 10:43, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * To explain a bit more, a company can offer different quantities of stock, and it's the value of each stock times the total number that gives you the total stock valuation. They do generally try to keep stock value in a certain range, say between $10 and $1000 each, by issuing more as the company grows, or splitting each stock into 2, 3 or more. StuRat (talk) 14:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Sure but because linkedin stock is so expansive there are people what are really interested to buy this, why?--Hijodetenerife (talk) 03:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * One share of LNKD is $196. How is that a barrier?  Is it hard to buy a small number of shares?  Do many investors hold less than $196 of any one stock? —Tamfang (talk) 07:49, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, small investors exist who but stock in smaller increments than that. There are many reasons to do so, even if you have more than that much to invest.  One is dollar cost averaging, which requires buying a small amount at a time.  Another is diversification, which requires buying only a small amount of each stock.  If you combine these, and do dollar cost averaging over a diverse portfolio, you could invest tens of thousands a year total and still not want to buy individual stock in increments that large. StuRat (talk) 16:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * but is to buy as it's is to its? —Tamfang (talk) 03:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I fixed "buy". Thanks. StuRat (talk) 17:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. —Tamfang (talk) 05:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * If you are trying to buy fractional shares, then you aren't buying a stock directly from the exchange. Some brokerage houses will allow you to do that, but the way it works is that the brokerage acquires a whole number of shares and then attributes a fractional share to your account.  This is usually accomplished by consolidating orders and delaying executions until the brokerage has enough fractional orders to cover a whole share (which might mean minutes or days of delay depending on how commonly that share is traded by that brokerage).  Any orders executed directly by the stock market, e.g. NASDAQ, NYSE, will be in whole shares only.  Actually it is even more complicated than that because most stock exchange transactions actually occur in what are called "books" which are blocks of 100 shares.   Orders for partial books (less than 100 shares) will often see slightly less favorable prices because other market participants may not want to deal with partial orders.  (On heavily traded stocks the difference is negligible, but for less frequently traded issues the difference can be appreciable.)  Dragons flight (talk) 11:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Doing a stock split is arbitrary - AFAIR there's a kind of prestige in having a ridiculously high valued stock, but doing a split has the reputation of making the price uptick; either way it's black magic because the investors are supposed to know better. Wnt (talk) 19:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Female to Male ratio
Which towns / cities have the most skewed male to female ratio. Because I'd really like to move to a place where there are way more women then men so there's less competition. Likewise, if I was a homosexual, I would want the inverse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.27.47 (talk) 12:55, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Though these cities may not have the most skewed ratio, but they are recommended by this website. http://www.aswglobalist.com/journey/top-10-cities-for-single-men/ --The mediocre Wikipedian (talk to me.) 13:58, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * That doesn't talk about sex ratio, but rather things like sports teams. StuRat (talk) 14:52, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * For the United States, see http://www.city-data.com/top28.html. - Lindert (talk) 14:24, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Note that all the cities listed have small populations. That's because the law of large numbers would make such a drastically skewed ratio unlikely in a large city, unless the national population was similarly skewed, perhaps by a devastating war that killed off most of the men.  In a small city, however, the presence of one girl's school could make quite a difference. StuRat (talk) 14:52, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Places that attract retirees (pensioners) may have a surplus of women (women have a higher life expectancy.)
 * Everything about this question is messed up. The sex ratio skew can't be more than fractions of a percent. Just how beta does one have to be for that to make any difference? What about lost opportunity costs, for example if it's some backwater place with no good jobs? Are you 12? Aecho6Ee (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Beta? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:22, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * yes, as in beta male. I used this in the non-scientific, colloquial sense of "bad with women" Aecho6Ee (talk) 20:30, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Talk about all messed up. I suspect that someone who gets dating advice from the ref desk is going to find that even if you're going to try catching fish in a barrel, your prey might still respond, "Not even if you were the last man on earth." μηδείς (talk) 17:57, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That, too Aecho6Ee (talk) 13:26, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * It depends on the size of place you're talking about. If it's small, as illustrated by the above source, you can get a massive skew as with Roseland, Indiana on the order of "100 females age 18 and over, there were 18.5 males". While I couldn't find a source mentioning reasons for the skew, based on our article and a map, the most likely reason would be it's a place where people attending Saint Mary's College (Indiana) and perhaps ofther places often live. It may be less obvious why the University of Notre Dame would cause a female skew, but the history and modern nature of the university may mean there's less place for them at more traditional places to stay, and also that they'd prefer all female residences, including ones which are also occupied by Saint Mary's College students. However, I'm not sure concentrating on places with such low populations, and potentially differing expectations from the OP is likely to help them. Notably also, as particularly illustrated by Notre Dame students, just because the place someone is living is mostly female doesn't mean they don't have regularly interactions with a large number of males in other places such as work or university/college (this is related to the point about low populations). Even in a case like Saint Mary's College it's resonable to assume most can regularly meet and interact with males if they want to, and in many cases it may not necessarily be those who happen to be living nearby, perhaps particularly not those who moved nearby to be living near them. Nil Einne (talk) 02:24, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * See this recently published article on imbalanced demographics affecting the "modern dating crisis" in two marriage-oriented populations: Mormons and ultra-Orthdox Jews in the USA (Time magazine, August 24, 2015). Includes a map showing male:female ratios across the country. -- Deborahjay (talk) 11:36, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

You need to move to Caracas.

Source: Gregory's Girl, via Dweller's memory.

Mind you, even if my memory is flaweless, that information is about 30 years out of date... and I'm not sure that a teenage character in a film is a . --[[User:Dweller|Dweller (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Surf City, according to a song even outer of date. —Tamfang (talk) 03:17, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Surf City (song), for those under 50 who don't have a clue what you mean.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! I'm less than 50 and got the reference. Dismas |(talk) 19:25, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, if you're a heterosexual woman, the good news is that Indian states and territories ranking by sex ratio can give you some serious leads. The bad news is that I think the reason for that skewed ratio is because it sucks to be a woman in those cities.  Never catch a break, never... Wnt (talk) 19:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

The General Thurber Inn in Rouses Point, New York
Our Kelly Le Brock article claims her father owned "The General Thurber Inn, a three-star Michelin restaurant in Rouses Point, New York". That smelly very fishy to me, as there are so few 3-starred restaurants. This local newspaper story confirms someone named "Harold LeBrock" did own that restaurant some time before 1980. But that's it - certainly nothing about any Michelin stars. And, for BLP, that doesn't confirm that he's any relation to Kelly. The claim was added in this 7 September 2009 edit, with no additional source - the only source in that vicinity is a paywalled LA Times article. I can't find mention of the restaurant on the Michelin Guide website, but I don't know how they handle former star-holders. Can anyone with access to the relevant archives check to see a) if that restaurant ever had any stars and b) whether the cited LA Times story says anything to support the bio details as the article currently stands. Thanks. -- Finlay McWalterᚠTalk 14:49, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * As someone who has been through Rouses Point, I'd be very surprised if the Michelin people had even heard of it much less given a star to any of its restaurants. Dismas |(talk) 19:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Where Did Wikileaks RSS go?
RSS is the best way to let us know what's new and what's important.

Your page at https://wikileaks.org/wiki/RSS appears to be dead; each of the three RSS links found leads to a 404 (missing) page message.

I'd like be a more active citizen on these matters, but without RSS, it's just to cumbersome.

Can this be fixed?

CAOgdin75 (talk) 15:28, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Wikileaks is not affiliated with Wikipedia. This is Wikipedia. -- Finlay McWalterᚠTalk 15:53, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Blood-borne Pathogens in Mass Casualty Events?
In many mass casualty events such as a suicide bombing, survivors and bystanders can often be seen helping those who are injured. Often, these first-responders are not wearing any gloves or personal protective equipment and there is usually a lot of blood all around. Generally, how safe is this for those first-responders? Are they at a high risk of contracting blood-borne pathogens like HIV or Hepatitis C? Acceptable (talk) 17:16, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If you were near to being fatally wounded in one of these events would you be happy to wait until someone found some latex gloves, by which time you had bled to death. It is human nature to help. As  to the heath issues. Professional first responders have multiple indents to attend to each day. On a probability bases they may well contract something during their careers – so it makes sense that they take extra precautions. On a one off disaster, the chances of contacting something horrid, is on the humanitarian score – an acceptable and small risk. --Aspro (talk) 18:51, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * First responders are definitely at high risk of contracting blood borne pathogens, whether during mass casualty events or during the normal course of their jobs. The United States Occupational Safety and Health Administration has published guidelines on first responder safety to minimize this risk . Someguy1221 (talk) 19:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Risks are inherent in being a first responder and depend on the type of casualty event. Examples are civil unrest that may be on-going, a secondary explosion or delayed building collapse after a bomb attack, and contagion in specific, usually isolated cases. For example, in 2003 first responders were among the earliest victims of the previously unknown SARS virus, when they cared for patients affected with the virus. A professional Paramedic who serves in an emergency services (shown), such as a Certified First Responder in France receives training that covers hygiene and asepsis in bleeding control. Worldwide the top three single agent/disease killers are HIV/AIDS, TB and malaria. In times of epidemics everyone should be aware of warnings issued by national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Bestfaith (talk) 19:22, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * These are listed in List of national public health agencies --Dweller (talk) 13:45, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

TOM CHEEK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cheek -
Good Day -

We have made several entries on this TOM CHEEK page recently as we knew and worked with him -

However, one of your misinformed editors - Trut-h-urts man - has reverted back commonly known information, all of which may be found on the web in a number of places AND wikipedia stating it needs a source yet many areas of the TOM CHEEK entry do not have souces listed, which seems puzzling and not holding to this principle -

The items in question are what appears on our page in this regard as well as the following, which we guarantee to be 100 % accurate and correct information -

- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Cheek&oldid=685064901 -

- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Cheek&oldid=prev&diff=685091441 -

- http://www.pacificwar.org.au/Midway/TomCheek/Wildcat_V_Zero.html -

- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Cheek&oldid=685091524 -

Additionally, this unknowing - Trut-h-urts man - person has changed name of TOM to THOMAS which is not at all correct as he was named after his father, who had exact same name, TOM FRED CHEEK, who we also met and knew -

We would appreciate your speaking with this editor and asking him to kindly adjust the page back to adding in the removed new data as it better tells more of the real Tom Cheek story -

We look forward to hearing back at your convenience at our email address, below, as we never can figure where to send or find anything in this repect on wikipedia which seems to be mostly internal email -

Thank you very much for taking time to read this email -

Sports Historian - Researcher - Biographer

COLONEL77 (talk) 19:55, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Personal email deleted from OP post109.152.119.99 (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The place to discuss this is on the article talk page - Talk:Tom Cheek. It would appear that the conflict is about Mr Cheek's middle name.  You'll need to provide a link to a reliable source for this information - your personal knowledge isn't, unfortunately, enough.  Other editors need to be able to verify the information you want to add to the article. Tevildo (talk) 21:12, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Reference search
How do you find good references for a school page. I can not find any "reputable" sources, only the school blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtewqq (talk • contribs) 23:36, 10 October 2015 (UTC)


 * In which country? I can probably help if it's the UK. Alansplodge (talk) 01:29, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The school may publish a year book. Also local newspapers are likely to have coverage and stories. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:57, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ... and OFSTED reports (available on-line) are useful for basic facts.   D b f i r s   12:03, 11 October 2015 (UTC)