Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2015 September 11

= September 11 =

Collection agency Debt Collector EOS Group (Inkasso based in Germany) in Sicily and Albania.. who can help?
I have read an article in the newspaper that the bill collect office EOS is very good at getting money inside of Albania and Sicily. It is called the best bill collector locally in this 2 countries. (I don´t even know how this is rated if one is good if one is bad) I couldn´t find out their names what they use in Sicily or Albania but I got very interested, what kind of methods they use. Don´t understand me wrong, but when I hear Albania or Sicily I first have to think of the mafia. It is just a fact that this countries are full with mafia. I don´t speak any Sicilian or Albanian, so I can´t really google or find out more about this company and their practice locally, so I would like to ask you, if you have maybe more luck thank I while finding out some informations about this company. --ZinssätzigeTargobank (talk) 03:28, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Is it as easy in the USA and Great Britain to open a bill collect office as in Germany? Collection agency, aka Debt Collector
I have read that in germany to open an office like that is only needed:
 * having 25 Years
 * no problems with any police or government
 * not needed any law degree or something like that (!), you can open the office, no one check out if you have any experience with law and rights it is not even needed a graduation of any school, you could have visited your whole life a special school or a school for disabled, its fine. Absolutely fine. (!)
 * paying 50 Euros to the Trade Office for having it officially and 500 Euros more a State approval. (I think only throw away garbage is as easy as this)

Is it also easy in Britain and the USA? kind regards, --ZinssätzigeTargobank (talk) 03:35, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * As an aging GB resident, I don't recognise the term "bill collect agency". Do you mean a Collection agency, aka Debt Collector? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 13:37, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes!! Collection agency, aka Debt Collector--ZinssätzigeTargobank (talk) 19:58, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Well-educated financial failures
It is a truism that education tends to set one up for success in life, but I am wondering how often education isn't enough. How often do people who have earned advanced credentials (e.g. Masters, Doctors) end up doing poorly financially, e.g. below average income or even living below the poverty line? I am most interested in statistics from the US, but stats from other countries might also be informative. Dragons flight (talk) 12:24, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Be wary of mixing Premisees. The word Education come from the latin Educare: meaning drawing out. Many people who receive advanced qualifications have just been 'schooled'. Have had their head filled with facts, figures and methods yet have received little or no 'drawing out' with which to understand the world around them and their part in it. Henry Ford only had a little schooling but he was brought up educated,  in a way that he could think for himself.--Aspro (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * If you have an alternative measure of education (or even intelligence / aptitude) that you can usefully compare to income later in life, feel free to offer those statistics as well. Dragons flight (talk) 13:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't have any statistics but are sister Wikiversity project helps to explain some of the alternatives: Ivan Illich: Deschooling Society.--Aspro (talk) 13:24, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Some of us would say "our" sister project. Yet I expect you make a good living. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:58, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't know all the details, but reading about Grigori_Perelman's life situation may be an interesting example. SemanticMantis (talk) 14:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * If you remove the concept of education and ask only about the degrees, you can ask: Do people who receive at least a Masters degree perform financially better than those who do not? On average, yes. It will be trivial to find anecdotes that go against this. Compare Eminem to the Unabomber. Neither of those anecdotes is normal. It is rare for someone who has difficulty forming complete sentences to make millions of dollars as a musician. It is rare for someone who has a PhD in mathematics to throw away his income, live in a shack, and get off on mailing bombs to people. Just remember, the plural of anecdote is not data. 209.149.115.219 (talk) 18:49, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Googling the phrase correlation education income brings up tons of links, including scholarly ones such as this one from JSTOR. Be aware, however, that some of the links are about related fields, like how income influences access to education. Here's an interesting article regarding the situation in Canada titled The High Education / Low Income Paradox: College and University Graduates with Low Earnings, Ontario, 2006. 99.235.223.170 (talk) 12:47, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Error in title when searching Mychal Judge
When you search for Fr. Mychal Judge, the search results on the right side of the page say Mychal Judge "Actor". Fr. Judge was a Catholic priest and the NYFD chaplain. He died in the line of duty at the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001. To refer to a man of God and a hero of Sept. 11 as an actor seems rather disrespectful.

This reference to actor goes away when you click the link and go to the Wikipedia page. I hope this can be corrected.

Thank you173.27.100.66 (talk) 18:50, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Searches for both  and the more simple  both return images and a description of the priest when I try them. Dismas |(talk) 21:42, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * A Yahoo search says "Actor". Such reports have always been about Google before but Yahoo has apparently copied their knowledge graph, including the confusing layout which makes people think everything is taken from Wikipedia. They also copied Google's "Feedback" link so the advice still works. I have made HD/YKG as a Yahoo version of the Google HD/GKG. I don't know whether Yahoo's version has an official name so I just called it a Yahoo box:
 * Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown in a box to the right of a Yahoo search? Such Yahoo boxes use a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Yahoo presents our information, but a Yahoo box has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong.
 * PrimeHunter (talk) 01:29, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

According to the IMDB, Mychal Judge has appeared in four movies. They were all documentaries (he appeared in archive footage), so he wasn't acting, but you can how the fact that someone has appeared in a movie might be confused with him being an actor. --65.95.178.150 (talk) 03:47, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Bad links
Good Afternoon,

I attended the ALA conference over the summer. Wikipedia had a booth and was giving out information. On one of the flyers I was given the link is broken. The front of the flyer is titled Wikipedia for Librarians. The back is titled 8 ways librarians can get involved in Wikipedia. The link in question is located on the back and is entitled 3. Teach Wikipedia as a starting point" workshop ....http://enwp.org/WP:DLG

I would love to get more information on that workshop or at the very least get the corrected link.

Thank you JO Jane Ogle (talk) 21:28, 11 September 2015 (UTC) 9/11/15 @2:28 pm pst


 * Your link works for me, and redirects to The_Wikipedia_Library/Research_libraries. Dragons flight (talk) 21:30, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The section link however appears to have been broken. I'm guessing they intended the section now titled:  The_Wikipedia_Library/Research_libraries.  Dragons flight (talk) 21:32, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the link, using my Wikipedia digital literacy skillz jnestorius(talk) 00:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Reliable Way Of Moving Out
I have an autistic family member and he and his family are looking into his moving out. However, websites listing subsidized housing typically include several numbers that no longer exist, as well as other housing projects that are full or not accepting applications.

What's their best bet for his moving out? Theskinnytypist (talk) 23:59, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * First of all, what country are we in? KägeTorä - (影虎)  ( もしもし！ ) 10:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * We live in California, in the Sacramento area. Theskinnytypist (talk) 16:14, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Are there not professional/government services in your area that are there to help autistic people and their families deal with this and related social issues? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:47, 12 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Assuming he has or can obtain a Section 8 (housing) voucher, your local real estate agencies may have active listings, and there is the GoSection8 website. -Modocc (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Presently, Sacramento's Housing Choice Voucher (section 8) wait list is closed, and last year only 5000 of 45,000 applicants during a two week open period were randomly selected to be placed on the wait list . The city and the county  are accepting pre-applications for public housing through the Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency.  -Modocc (talk) 03:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)