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= July 5 =

Everywhere We Go - tune?
Just back from Euro 2016 (soccer tournament), following Northern Ireland, and this song was very popular. It seems most teams have a variation on it:


 * Everywhere we go, everywhere we go
 * It's the (team name) boys making all the noise,
 * Everywhere we go

Northern Ireland fans also sing it as:


 * Kyle Lafferty, Kyle Lafferty,
 * He's seven foot and he plays the flute,
 * Kyle Lafferty

The same tune is used with other words. The first time I heard it at a football match was in Spain maybe ten years ago, at an Espanyol match, where it sounded like "Espanyol a-yi" and is probably Catalan for something like "go Espanyol". What I want to know is, what's the origin of the tune? --Nicknack009 (talk) 08:12, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Assuming that it's the same tune as this Scout campfire song, it's been around in Scouting in the UK since the mid-1980s. I don't recall it before that. It has the ring of one of those chants used by US military drill instructors ("Military cadence"), but that's just a guess. Alansplodge (talk) 14:03, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Interesting question Nicknack! I've done a spot of googling and I've found this, which is supposed to come from Wolverhampton in the 1980s. --TammyMoet (talk) 14:09, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's probably best known as the - theme song? - of the Barmy Army (cricket). See that article for more information on its history. Tevildo (talk) 00:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid that's a different "Everywhere We Go" song, with a different tune. Follow the Youtube link I gave in the original question. Or here's another rendition from Northern Ireland fans, here's one from Nottingham Forest fans, and here's the Kyle Lafferty variation. --Nicknack009 (talk) 08:05, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oops! Sorry... Alansplodge (talk) 12:42, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Wheeled suitcase question
I have used many wheeled suitcases, all with small wheels. Whilst such wheels are fine for airports, they quickly break when used regularly on pavements and other less smooth surfaces. Do wheeled suitcases with large, sturdy wheel exist, and where can I find them?--Leon (talk) 15:35, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Googling suitcase "large wheels" finds plenty. Make sure you put quotes round "large wheels".--Shantavira|feed me 19:16, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Except when you look at the entries, almost all of them don't actually have large wheel suitable for the purpose I describe.--Leon (talk) 19:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * That's strange. I see half a dozen large-wheeled suitcases. Looks as though the wheels are 8 to 12 inches in diameter. Maybe your Google settings are different to mine. Try searching Google Images instead. One supplier is this one. --Shantavira|feed me 07:34, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I have seen the G-Ro (since posing my question), but it's far too expensive. Is there anything cheaper?--Leon (talk) 07:42, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Back in the 1980s, we used little foldable trolleys for suitcases (no built in wheels then). Bit like this http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/-RsAAOxyNThTdn2N/s-l225.jpg Maybe you could try one of those? I dragged mine case all over Paris on it in the summer of 1988. --TrogWoolley (talk) 13:52, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not a world traveler by any means, but I've recently spent quite a bit of time in various airports and I don't think I've ever seen quite what you describe. The question reminds me somewhat of the changes that occurred with baby strollers about two decades ago (WP:OR) where it suddenly came into vogue to have rugged heavy duty plastic wheels on baby strollers, which had previously used smaller, cheaply made, wheels. Maybe there's an untapped market? The flip side is that space is at a premium when it comes to airways luggage. Matt Deres (talk) 02:19, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I note that the man in the picture Matt linked to here, taking the baby for a 'spin', actually appears to be jogging! You probably didn't see parents doing that 20/30 years ago. Perhaps that's why the wheels have got larger and more rugged. 220  of  Borg 13:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should ask the next flight attendant that you meet what they recommend. After all, who uses (abuses?) suitcases more?  Dismas |(talk) 02:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Millions of people do. Oops, I misread your post as "Who uses suitcases anymore".  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  05:29, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Not just space but weight too. Actually for checked in luggage, weight is probably commonly a bigger concern than weight. Nil Einne (talk) 12:44, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "weight is probably commonly a bigger concern than weight"...?!?! Muffled  Pocketed  13:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, meant space as that was what Matt Deres referred to. Nil Einne (talk) 13:28, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Er, you meant space which time? --69.159.60.163 (talk) 06:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Lol!!! Muffled Pocketed  13:19, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on context I think he must have meant weight is a bigger concern than space. (Whereas for cabin baggage, space is often a bigger concern - depending on the particular airline's rules.) --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 10:52, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Correct. Sorry for the double confusion. Nil Einne (talk) 16:17, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * In my world, one confusion would cancel out another. (Unfortunately, my world is an undiscovered and uninhabited planet.) --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:32, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Have you seen The Luggage in Discworld? Hotclaws (talk) 18:44, 7 July 2016 (UTC)