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= March 26 =

Intermarriage in israel
How do the majority of Israelis view intermarriage between members of their people with Arabs living in Israel? Do they think of it favourably or negatively? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.49.84.225 (talk) 23:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You may find your answer in Interfaith_marriage_in_Judaism. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:21, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Are there any reasons for why more than half would oppose intermarriage between Israelis and Palestinians?108.51.116.34 (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * You'd have to ask them. -- Jayron 32 01:59, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Besides the link provided by User:Baseball Bugs above, the question as posed is impossible to answer without rewording. The Palestinian Arabs living in Israel (among them Muslims, Christians, and Druze) are Israeli citizens. If "intermarriage" refers to their marriage to non-Arabs and "Israelis" refers to Jews: the latter would be influenced by religious teachings if any, taking into account that the Israeli Jewish population is heterogeneous: secular, traditional, religiously observant, and the minority Haredi ("ultra-Orthodox") which nevertheless has a great deal of influence on other groups due to its rejection of less strict observance. More to the point is that unmarried Jews and Arabs rarely have social contact: Cities, towns and villages are overwhelmingly exclusive to Jews or Arabs, and in the few "dual-population" cities (Jerusalem, Haifa, Acre (Akko),Jaffa, and Ramla-Lod, plus Nazareth/Upper Nazareth and Maalot-Tarshiha) integrated neighborhoods are extremely rare.; Jewish children attend schools in the Hebrew language and further separated according to secular, state-religious, and Haredi curricular content, while Arab children of all faiths attend a separate school system (or particularly for Christians, private schools by denomination) with instruction in Arabic. Traditional, rural Arab young women would be unlikely to meet any Jews at all. Marriage laws go according to formal religious affiliation and there is no civil marriage in the State of Israel, which does recognize marriages performed abroad. The Jewish religion doesn't solicit converts. Druze don't intermarry with non-Druze. So Arab/Jewish intermarriage is quite uncommon in Israel regardless of opinions and theoretical preferences. -- Deborahjay (talk) 16:12, 28 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Are the Aramaic - speaking Christians in Israel, i.e. Assyrians, Chaldeans, Jacobites, Maronites (I presume there are some) Arabs?  I would have thought not. 78.149.118.97 (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Jews and Arabs are the two largest population groups, not everyone is one or the other. Minorities in Israel are [self-]defined by various characteristics: religion, country of origin, ethnic-cultural background, and language. For example, see Circassians in Israel. Hebrew, for example, was only shared by religious Jews regardless of geographic origin; secular Jews spoke a local vernacular or several plus a Jewish national language by region: Yiddish, Ladino, and Judeo-Arabic languages for the Ashkenazi, Sephardim, and Mizrachim respectively, the latter called by some "Arab Jews". -- Deborahjay (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

So it's kind of like how things used to be in the southern United States before the sixties.108.51.116.34 (talk) 19:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Anyways, isn't it hypocritical that these same people helped in trying to push for the desegregation of blacks, and yet in their own country of Israel segregate themselves from Arabs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.51.116.34 (talk) 23:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Marrying within one's faith or ethnic group has been a standard practice for as long as humanity has been around. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:30, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

And it was a standard practice in the west until the sixties. Since then, it has become less of a standard practice in many western countries. Unfortunately, organizations that serve to represent this particular ethnic group such as ADL label anyone in the west who dares to openly speak against allowing intermarriage between Europeans and non Europeans as being racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.51.116.34 (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a lot more mixed marriage than there used to be, but marrying within one's "tribe" is still the norm. Your comment about the ADL, however, does not make logical sense. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:40, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

The ADL tries to silence people in western countries who openly speak against allowing intermarriage between Europeans and non Europeans. Yet, the adl doesn't complain about Israeli girls being discouraged from dating Arab guys. Am I making sense now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.51.116.34 (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No. Can you find an example? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:36, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

David Duke is one example.108.51.116.34 (talk) 19:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * If you're actually trying to defend David Duke, this conversation is over. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:48, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Why?108.51.116.34 (talk) 19:50, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I added another sentence to my comment since I forgot to add it.108.51.116.34 (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2016 (UTC)