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= October 5 =

Saying Queen Elizabeth II is older than Adolf Hitler is incorrect?
Some people have said that Queen Elizabeth II is older than Adolf Hitler, even though Hitler has the earlier birth date. So, isn't it incorrect to say that Queen Elizabeth is older than Adolf Hitler? VRtrooper (talk) 06:49, 5 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Who says that? Anyway, it entirely depends on how you feel like comparing ages when one person is dead. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:10, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * "Queen Elizabeth II is older than Adolf Hitler was when he died" = correct. "Queen Elizabeth II is older than Adolf Hitler would be were he still alive today" = incorrect. Alansplodge (talk) 11:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Well put. It reminds me of Tom Lehrer's line from 1965: "when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years." AndrewWTaylor (talk) 15:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Bravo! There used to be rumors that Hitler was still alive and living in South America. But as he was born in 1889, I think it's safe to say he's dead by now. And assuming he died in 1945, Lizzie passed Hitler's lifespan some 35 years ago. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:45, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Handheld PC
A solicitor possessed something called an ipad with a detachable keyboard. I’m looking for something alike, something like (a smaller version of) a PC, with a detachable keyboard, and with a long lasting battery power... What should I be searching for?

Note: Phone ingoing and outgoing call usage plus pay as you go internet usage capability is a must. 103.230.106.9 (talk) 11:24, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You may be able to find something like that at your local computer store. And there's the internet as well. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:41, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The thing you want to buy is called a Tablet computer, incidentally. Tevildo (talk) 18:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I didn't know solicitation required such fancy equipment these days. :-) StuRat (talk) 19:23, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Microsoft Surface could fit the bill. Mingmingla (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * iPad is an Apple product.  Their recently introduced MacBook Pro 2016 has good battery life and a detachable keyboard, so you can use it as a laptop or tablet as you wish. 86.16.15.70 (talk) 19:35, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * iPad Pro has a detachable keyboard that you pay extra for. Not a phone though. Sleigh (talk) 11:35, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure the iPad Pro isn't really suitable for what you want. Nor really is the MacBook Pro 2016 although you have a slightly higher chance of getting it working if you attach a suitable USB device I guess. Neither of these will support phone calls, nor SMS and this isn't something that can be resolved via an app even if the device has access to the mobile network for data. You could use data, and then use a VoIP service, even one with an incoming line to make calls. Similar for SMS. However, especially since you are in Bangladesh, and you may know this better then us, data service may not always be sufficient for voice calls. It may also be significantly more expensive (but I know nothing about data plans in Bangladesh). In some cases you may have wifi and not even sufficient signal for a voice call over the mobile network but depending on what your network supports, you could potentially set it up such that incoming calls to your mobile phone number are redirected to a number for a VoIP service that you are using over wifi. In other words, if you want voice calls, you probably want a device which supports voice calls over the mobile phone network.
 * You should be able to find some Android device which support this, especially in the 7" market given the growth of the phablet category. For larger 10" or so devices, you'd need to look carefully as again, even it the device can use the network for data, it doesn't mean it can receive calls or SMS using the network's capabilities (rather than some service using data over the network). This isn't generally something that can be fixed via apps, there is a slight chance third party firmware may allow it but not likely to be something you want to do.
 * Nil Einne (talk) 13:47, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

PC with a Mobile Phone
I'm looking for a smaller version of a PC, with a mobile phone usage system, "a smart phone with a PC (Desktop/Laptop software lookalike interface) to be honest". This is the first time I'm going to buy such a product and I'm naive to it. The following defined below is/are also some mandatory criteria, which Touchscreen Tablet PC matches the criteria to the closest:

1) "Few" USB ports (three or so).

2) Bluetooth and Wifi/Wimax.

3) High, long lasting battery - what is the highest "mAh" available in the current market?

4) Headphone & Microphone "ports".

5) "13mp" with a good internal/display screen resolution of 1280 × 800, or over.

6) Internal & External GB/TB RAM ROM - attachable and detachable capability.

103.230.104.24 (talk) 19:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking of getting something similar, though not with any great urgency. [Up to now, I've avoided getting even a conventional mobile phone, and stuck to landlines plus desktop PCs both at home and at work] Have you read our article Phablet? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.211.191 (talk) 12:48, 6 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think such a thing exists, even just having three usb ports and a phone. You might like the Pocket CHIP it is a very inexpensive, very small Linux computer that comes with a small button keyboard. SemanticMantis (talk) 14:39, 6 October 2016 (UTC)


 * A lot depends on what you mean by "mobile phone usage system". If you want something which can make voice calls actually over the networks voice system and I assume SMS, then as mentioned to the OP above it'll likely be difficult. (I'm not sure if it's impossible, there's a lot of weird devices out of China. However you should consider why you want 3 USB ports as driver support is likely to be limited for a lot of USB devices. Similarly, there's a reason why desktop/laptop interfaces have generally failed with touchscreen devices.) If you simply want to use data, then you'll find it a lot easier. In fact, if you tolerate a small USB adapter to use the data, you open yourself to even more options. E.g. probably pretty much every Windows device that meets your other requirements. One confusing thing is why you said WiFi/WiMAX. WiMAX is very different from Wifi and seems to have largely failed as nearly everyone turned to LTE instead. If you really want WiMAX because some network provider is using this where you live, does this mean you also want LTE or what? Nil Einne (talk) 13:47, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Food scales
Are there subjective scales for other foods similar to the Scoville scale for chili peppers? Such as for pungency of cheese, or sweetness of fruits, etc. Thank you. → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 20:06, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Brix for sweetness? Or do you need it more specific to foods? --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 21:08, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't need it for anything. I am just curious.  → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 21:42, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't drink wine, but I seem to recall buying some for someone in an LCBO store and seeing labeling for sweetness on a numerical scale (maybe 0 to 10). This was probably on the store's shelf labels rather than the wine bottles themselves. Perhaps someone is familiar with this. --69.159.61.230 (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * IBU -- international bittering units, for beer. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 23:09, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Searching for that led me to beer measurement, but that article actually spends more space devoted to beer colouring, which might also suit the OP's fancy. There's more on IBU here. Matt Deres (talk) 01:41, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I regularly buy cheese from the local supermarket, most of which is marked with a scale from 1 to 5 to show how strong it is. Similarly for ground coffee. Wymspen (talk) 21:47, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * There is the pyruvate scale for the pungency of onions and garlic, but, like the mentioned Brix, the Oechsle scale, or Normalizovaný muštomer, it's not a subjective scale. ---Sluzzelin talk  23:21, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Our article Types of chocolate describes several scales for how "dark" chocolate is, varying by nation. It also includes an EU regulation allowing polyglycerol polyricinoleate to be added to chocolate bars as a non-nutritive alternative to vegetable fats, to simulate "mouthfeel" of those fats in chocolate. loupgarous (talk) 14:02, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks all.  → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 01:02, 9 October 2016 (UTC)