Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2017 April 12

= April 12 =

Why are some listings on the Famous People Deaths pages in red?
Why are some listings on the Famous People Deaths pages in red? Simple question, but, there doesn't seem to be an answer anywhere. I've wondered about this for years!

Thanks, Dave 2601:188:C401:9969:3D71:166B:E2A6:BDA9 (talk) 17:14, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The short answer is, because there isn't an article on those people. Now, you might well ask, if there's no article on them, they're not notable, so why are they on the famous deaths list? Which is a good question. There was a debate on this issue somewhere, I'll try and find it. --Viennese Waltz 17:21, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * They can still be notable and have no article. All it means is that nobody has got around to writing an article yet. Akld guy (talk) 20:12, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * If these are in the, say, Deaths in April 2017 page, there's a "rule" that says red linked articles can persistent for up to a month to allow someone keen to create the article, after which time they're removed. So you shouldn't find a single redlink in Deaths in February 2017, Deaths in January 2017, 2016 etc etc.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:17, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not believe there is any such rule. See WP:Red link where there is no suggestion of a time limit and instead we're told that justified red links should remain, presumably indefinitely, if they link to a notable subject whose article hasn't been created yet. To make it clear, you're referring to a policy established by consensus stated on the Deaths in April 2017 article. Akld guy (talk) 11:35, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

How to carry two bags with straps?
How would be the best way of carrying two bags with straps? Each on one side looks kind of strange with the straps crossed in front. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.4.145.102 (talk) 21:49, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Each bag across the opposite shoulder sounds best to me, for balance and ability to prevent theft. It might be a problem for a woman, though, if the straps hit the breasts awkwardly.  Hopefully the straps can be adjusted to prevent that. StuRat (talk) 22:08, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I think it depends on the weight of both. If one is heavier than the other, I'd carry one in the opposite shoulder and the other not. --Hofhof (talk) 22:39, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


 * You could buy a luggage-carrier, a little fold-up handcart - like these, except separate from the bags. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:52, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


 * But is it better to have one bag hanging at the front and the other at the back or should you arrange the bags so that they hang at the side. Richard Avery (talk) 07:37, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that choke the user? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying? † dismas †|(talk) 18:08, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The answer is going to depend (pun unintentional but noted) on the particular size, shape, weight and strap design of each of the bags, and the physique of the carrier: the distance and duration of the necessary carry may also become a factor. The only way to find out for a particular set of circumstances is to try various configurations and see what works best. If the bags are of any significant weight, considerations of how an arrangement looks will quickly seem much less important than how it feels. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.249.244 (talk) 18:49, 13 April 2017 (UTC)