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= June 12 =

British International Motor Show 1996 edition
Does anybody know the exact dates of the 1996 Motor Show at the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham? Unfortunately the above article doesn't mention the event at all. Also, is there any evidence that it was styled "Motorshow 96" [sic]? I'm looking at a selection of rail-and-admission tickets issued from various places at various dates in late October 1996 (between 18th—apparently a preview day—and 27th), and all show "Motorshow 96". Cheers, Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  12:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * According to the Radio Times, there was a report about it on October 20th. http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a06448ef691547b293ccdbe1f0efbc80. This flyer says it opened on October 16th http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Nuvola-Concept-Car-UK-Press-Pack-1996-NEC-Photograph-x-3-/371617113799?hash=item56861b26c7:g:yDgAAOSw1DtXKhjB. But this one says the 18th to the 27th http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Alfa-Romeo-Press-Pack-for-British-Motor-Show-October-1996-Inc-photos-of-Nuvola-/222128090573?hash=item33b7ddadcd:g:iK4AAOSwH6lXRCzF They all refer to it as the SMMT 1996 British International Motor Show. Wymspen (talk) 14:05, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Wymspen; it looks like 18th to 27th was perhaps the public show and the 16th (and no doubt 17th) was for the trade or other special guests. I'll go with 18th to 27th in the thing I'm writing.  Cheers,  Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)


 * An advertisment "our models will drive you wild" in the London Times on 10 October has it as the "British International Motor Show, NEC Birmingham, 18th to 27th October" no mention of "Motorshow96". Another entry on tv programmes show that the BBC coverage was called "Motorshow 96" but it doesnt appear to be a name used by the show organisers. MilborneOne (talk) 19:03, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh it does say in the small print "Ticket Prices - Adults £9.00 Children £5.00 except the Daily Telegraph Preview Day (18th) All tickets £16" MilborneOne (talk) 19:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * See British International Motor Show.  Many years ago my father took my brother to the Motor Show.   Unfortunately, the day they chose to attend it was closed to the general public (it was "trade only").   It was only a single day that the public couldn't get in.   The Show always ends on a Sunday.   It used to be a nine - day affair, beginning on a Saturday, then extended to eleven days (beginning Thursday) and twelve (beginning Wednesday).   In 1996 it ended on Sunday, 27 October having begun, presumably, on Thursday, 18th. 81.151.100.147 (talk) 19:36, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the additional comments. MilborneOne, the prices quoted helpfully confirm more details of the tickets I'm looking at.  As well as several admission-only tickets (issued at stations) @ £9.00 on 22nd and 24th, I have a rail-and-admission ticket from London to "Motorshow 96" (looks like that name was just used as railway-speak shorthand!) @ £35.00 for 27th and one @ £42.00 to "Motorshow Preview 96" on 18th.  The £16.00 quoted above confirms that the special rail fare to Birmingham International must have been £26.00.   Hassocks  5489 (Floreat Hova!)  22:49, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Loyalty to organisations
Generally, in most countries, do organisations prefer people who are loyal working for that 1 organisation or do they see the value in people moving around, particularly early on in their career to get an understanding of a particular profession across different organisations? 82.17.229.129 (talk) 18:42, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Many years ago, banks would not employ anybody who had worked for another bank.  As a result, someone who had got tired of working for a particular bank changed direction and moved into insurance.   This was at the beginning of their career. 81.151.100.147 (talk) 19:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * In contract, in academia, spending your entire career at one institute is considered a very bad thing, and will often harm your chances of getting more funding. Fgf10 (talk) 06:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Even Harvard or Oxford? Even if your field is something like Old English where Oxford is probably the undisputed best? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh no idea about humanities. I was talking about proper academia. Yes, even Harvard or Oxford (which aren't always the best at doing anything). Fgf10 (talk) 15:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you find scientists that went all the way from first semester to tenure "in house" at any good research university? (perhaps with a semester abroad or on a yacht or one of those other cool things undergraduates like to do) Are there scientists with tenure at multiple good universities? Does anyone collect universities or even tenures like stamps? (like Harvard B.S. University of Chicago PhD Yale postgraduate Brown a job Princeton next job Cambridge next job Stanford next job Sydney next job UPenn next job etc.) (forgive the clueless questions) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:35, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * When I received my PhD, I was told to stay far away from anywhere where I had been a student (I got my BS, Masters, and PhD from three different universities). I was told that those universities will always see me as a student, not a full professor. I haven't actually pursued a career in academics. I provider computer expertise for hospital systems instead (it pays a lot more). But, as for collecting tenures like stamps, I haven't seen that. Instead, I see adjunct professors who go from school to school. One guy I know has parking stickers for four different universities on his car. All are current, so I assume he is an adjunct at all four. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 18:05, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no way to generalize over such a wide expanse. Do you really expect that McDonald's and the Vatican would combine to form some sort of average? Just one of the many, many, factors that would be at play here would be the relationship between the cost to onboard a new person versus the costs associated with them staying on (due to increased salary, coverage of vacation, etc.) That relationship will vary wildly by industry and organization. Matt Deres (talk) 16:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * What we need is the real question. Is it something like, "I've worked for over 25 different companies over the last 5 years. How can I make that sound good in an interview?" 209.149.113.5 (talk) 16:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't Cambridge scientists stay on at places like the Cavendish Laboratory?  We don't have an article for Brian Bellhouse, the Oxford science don whose sad death was reported this week ].   Maybe we should. 86.176.19.17 (talk) 09:52, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Bill Stepien
What has Donald Trump said concerning Bill Stepien, who is his White House Political Director?144.35.45.81 (talk) 19:32, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * "You're hired!" ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:18, 15 June 2017 (UTC)