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= October 13 =

Physical Punishment(s)
What is the harshest physical punishment individual(s) could['ve] ever receive[d] in the history of human kind, in the physical realm? 202.134.13.128 (talk) 09:11, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * That would be a matter of opinion so we can't answer that. You can however start here: List_of_methods_of_torture and decide for yourself. You can also google something like "worst methods of torture". 196.213.35.146 (talk) 10:03, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Define "harsh". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Human cruelty knows no bounds, from history some particularly famous gruesome methods of phyiscal punishment include being Hanged, drawn and quartered, flayed, impaled, crucified, having to watch the Cleveland Browns, etc. -- Jayron 32 11:09, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If you're specifically thinking of methods of execution, you'll find many such lists   including, besides those already mentioned, stuff such as Scaphism. Although it always pays to make sure there's actually evidence for the method, e.g. Bamboo torture isn't backed by good evidence per our article. (Even scaphism doesn't seem to be that well supported considering the tendency of people to make up stuff about how evil someone else is.) I do agree with others though that it isn't realisticly possible to decide what is the worst, individuals will have their own opinions. I don't think you'll even find good sourcing (whether of experts or surveys) to gauge how people feel since it's simply to weird for people to be interested in ranking in that way so you'll just get stuff like those crappy lists. Nil Einne (talk) 12:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * In literature, for thousands of years, the loss of hope is repeated as the worst punishment. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 12:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . -- Jayron 32 15:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Countered by the old saying "Where there's life, there's hope." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:16, 14 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Inferno (Dante) is an obvious citation. MacBeth is another. It is Plato's generic hero theme: Hero is great. Hero fails. Hero loses hope. Hero gets help. Hero wins. Hooray! 71.85.51.150 (talk) 21:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)


 * You might not think of hell as being in the physical realm - but Dante certainly did. Have a look at his description of the punishment of Judas Iscariot. Wymspen (talk) 15:51, 13 October 2017 (UTC)


 * No other mammal has such a disproportion between the size of the pelvic opening and that of the baby's head. Throughout history, maternal mortality was a leading cause of women's deaths. Childbirth is painful even when it goes well, and can go spectacularly wrong. Labour can last for days. To what extent can this be considered a physical punishment? There are plenty of groups within all Abrahamic religions who base their worldview on some version of "in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children" - the pain of parturition is Eve's punishment for seeking knowledge. In other words, divine punishment. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 20:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Is the following possible: Breaking a bone into two and a ligament into two inside the body/skin, every time pain of each set reliefs/relieves? 202.134.13.132 (talk) 05:28, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * What are planning to do with all this information? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:17, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Masochist: “Hurt me!”

Sadist: “No.”

DOR (HK) (talk) 17:14, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * And you are hereby presented with the Old Joke of the Day award. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:58, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Baseball Bugs: Accquring the knowledge of What is the harshest physical punishment individual(s) could['ve] ever receive[d] in the history of human kind, in the physical realm?. Please stick to the point.
 * Now, is the following assumption possible i.e. Breaking a bone into two and a ligament into two inside the body/skin, every time pain of each set reliefs/relieves?
 * 202.134.9.135 (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If you're trying to gross us out, it's working. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:08, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Why do we have this thread?--WaltCip (talk) 13:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you want to box it up and/or delete it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If it quacks like a troll... —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:4C0B:CDC2:99AA:D3FA (talk) 18:17, 15 October 2017 (UTC)


 * As 'registered users', your comments should've been better than this. It seems like you have forgotten the basics of WP guides. I would love to educate you, but will respect you three for being a registered user.
 * Try not to make a fool out of yourself next time.
 * 202.134.13.137 (talk) 07:07, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No, do please educate me. I'm a slow learner.--WaltCip (talk) 12:19, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It appears he's talking to the IPv6 address rather than anyone else here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:43, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The dynamic IPv6 editor with 1000s of article space edits since 2009, was just following-up on the implication that the thread should be boxed and/or deleted due to the evident (successful) attempts of the OP to elicit reactions instead of solicit information. —2606:A000:4C0C:E200:198D:93E0:4AF4:F57D (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for re-stating the reason why it should be boxed up. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:25, 16 October 2017 (UTC)