Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2018 January 13

= January 13 =

Nuclear weapons shipping
How were Little Boy and Fat Man shipped from the manufacturer to the air base in the Marianas where they were loaded aboard the bombers? (I mean specifically the details -- which railroads, which ships, even which trains/engines if possible.) I don't think this would still be classified after so many years, would it? 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:E51F:ABFF:2AFA:A819 (talk) 03:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Famously, if you've ever seen the movie Jaws, you know that much of the essential parts of Little Boy were sent by boat on the USS Indianapolis. One of the key characters in Jaws, Robert Shaw's "Quint", had been a sailor on said ship and tells it's story right before the climax of the film.  -- Jayron 32 03:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * If we may answer by reference to nonfiction... The Making of the Atomic Bomb says that most of the components of Little Boy were shipped together:
 * From Los Alamos on July 14 to Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque, using "a closed black truck and seven carloads of security guards";
 * From Kirtland to Hamilton Field, San Francisco, using two DC-3's;
 * From Hamilton to Hunter's Point Naval Shipyard, San Francisco, using "another security convoy", i.e. by truck again;
 * From Hunter's Point to Tinian via the Indianapolis, departing July 16 and arriving July 26.
 * The U-235 "target" assembly was sent by air from Kirtland AFB to Tinian, departing on July 26 and (if I understand correctly) arriving on July 28. It was sent in three pieces, each aboard a separate C-54 cargo plane of Air Transport Command.
 * The Fat Man was sent in five pieces on separate planes from Kirtland AFB to Tinian: two more ATC C-54's carrying the plutonium core and the initiator, simultaneously with the ones with the Little Boy parts, and three B-29's carrying preassembled explosive sections, departing the same day the other parts arrived at Tinian and arriving August 2.
 * Gen. Groves told Gen. Marshall that he expected to ship the core and initiator for the third attack on about August 12 or 13, but canceled the shipment when told that President Truman had decided not to attack again. --70.29.13.251 (talk) 04:49, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I was not aware the Wikipedia article titled USS Indianapolis (CA-35) was fiction. If it is fictional, please fix the article, because it states it transported large parts of the Little Boy bomb.  -- Jayron 32 04:56, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I was not aware that Jaws (film) was not. --70.29.13.251 (talk) 06:41, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it was based on a true story... 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:E51F:ABFF:2AFA:A819 (talk) 09:46, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Disregarding of the film, is the USS Indianapolis / atomic bomb connection a myth? Alansplodge (talk) 10:26, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, as 70.29.13.251 mentioned, some of the parts for Little Boy were shipped to Tinian on the Indianapolis. The torpedo and shark attacks happened on the way back (the only fictional part of the story from Jaws is Quint himself). Adam Bishop (talk) 12:00, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, apologies, I got myself in a muddle. The references cited in the Indianapolis article for the nuclear trip are not terribly convincing, I may have a search for some better ones. Alansplodge (talk) 16:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Try the book I cited. --70.29.13.251 (talk) 20:57, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! So, to summarize, the shipping was as follows: from the factory to the airfield by truck, from there to Frisco by plane, then to the harbor by truck, and finally to the island by ship -- did I get it right? 2601:646:8E01:7E0B:C81D:59C2:9A63:53DF (talk) 09:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes for Little Boy (the Hiroshima bomb), but for Fat Man (the Nagasaki bomb) the components were flown directly to Tinian in various aircraft. Alansplodge (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * First, as detailed above, some of the Little Boy components were also "flown directly to Tinian". Second, the planes "directly to Tinian" left from Kirtland AFB, so the components first had to get there from Los Alamos.  The book I cited doesn't detail that part, but they must have gone by truck also for that stage.  Finally, at least at that era Los Alamos is perhaps better described as a laboratory than a factory. --70.29.13.251 (talk) 20:57, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Transport Goods
1) What is the percentage of goods being damaged?

2) What could be done for prevention from small batch to large?

119.30.47.162 (talk) 16:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * We have an article Freight transport, and one on Packaging and labeling, but the answers to your questions depend on the type of goods and the mode of transport. Are these homework questions?   Dbfirs  17:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * No, just calculating extra cost...
 * Just to clarify:
 * Packaging: I require a firsthand packaging (to insert the product itself in it, of course company will do the labeling) and a second hand packaging (gift wrapping). Will the product making company do both, as negotiated for the first and as sampled for the second?
 * 37.111.234.166 (talk) 16:31, 14 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Packaging can be a final step in manufacturing. As a product nears the end of an assembly line it could be packaged. This could include labeling. What is the product under consideration? Bus stop (talk) 16:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Paypal system
I currently don't possess the facility therefore I'm asking here.

I've reviewed the website and it doesn't, well, does it possess an account number that could be give to anyone around the world in order to pay the right currency sum, into my account? If not which facility could I use.

Basically, instead of displaying my bank account details, I wish to display or give my paypal account number in order to receive internet payments...

119.30.47.162 (talk) 16:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * PayPal only requires the payee's email address; other payment info is not shared. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 16:19, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * It's not an account number, the Paypal identifier is formatted as an email address. This doesn't need to be a live address (I think it might need to be once at most, for confirmation on setup). You can also attach multiple addresses, so you don't need to expose your main email address. They also give you the ability to create a web-friendly "pay me here" link which doesn't even expose that email address, and works for non-Paypal users too, who can make a one-off payment with a card. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Andy Dingley (talk: I require this web friendly one off plus system, where customers can pay in any currency mode without being a paypal member, in order to display it in a webpage. I went to the website before messaging here, it gives two options and I rested with confusion. Could you give me a step by step guide please? 37.111.234.166 (talk) 16:39, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Try this, they call it a "Buy Now" button: https://developer.paypal.com/docs/classic/paypal-payments-standard/integration-guide/buy_now_step_1/ Andy Dingley (talk) 16:52, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Banks Building Society
How many business bank account could I open for a business? 119.30.47.162 (talk) 16:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure whether Bangladeshi bank accounts are as expensive as British ones for businesses, but the answer might be "as many as you can afford". Most small businesses have just one or two. Is there some genuine reason why you might need more?   <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i>  17:28, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


 * We do not offer legal advice. 174.64.100.70 (talk) 04:14, 14 January 2018 (UTC)


 * <i style="color: blue;">D</i><i style="color: #0cf;">b</i><i style="color: #4fc;">f</i><i style="color: #6f6;">i</i><i style="color: #4e4;">r</i><i style="color: #4a4">s</i> No. I didn't know it costs to possess one in the first place. Thank you. 37.111.234.166 (talk) 16:31, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Also note that certain jurisdictions may have regulations governing this (i.e limiting the number of accounts a single business may hold, in order to prevent money laundering and/or tax evasion). Also, holding too many bank accounts can be inefficient and costly; I've seen auditors' reports pointing this out. --Xuxl (talk) 17:01, 14 January 2018 (UTC)