Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2018 May 16

= May 16 =

Yahoo shares
Why does the company of Yahoo is not a boring penny stock? I saw the course of the stock has raised up a lot. Why? I don't see any reason why a capitalist would invest his money into this company, I wouldn't like to be a shareholder not even for free, because I feel like this stock can loose his worth tomorrow to 0,01$. So why the hell is a useless stock of a useless company raised up so high? --Saegen zeugen des sofas jehovas (talk) 04:06, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yahoo Clever is dead. Useless. There is not even offered a support.
 * Yahoo-search-bar or Yahoo as a search engine is out of time, not interesting for anybody. (The most used search with yahoo is "www.google...", you know?)
 * Yahoo mail is the worst thing I have ever seen, especially after so many details of robbed passwords from yahoo servers and the statement of Yahoo, that they give ANY information a police branch is asking for, totally free (google for example admits, it gives information out only to courts and only for "good reasons" and not to the police - yahoo doesn't ask for "good reasons") and immediately which they have collected about a person.
 * We do not offer financial advice.--WaltCip (talk) 12:22, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing a request for financial advice, I'm seeing a question about why Yahoo! is worth anything. According to our article, it has revenue of $8.15 billion. The disconnect seems to be that many people feel that "nobody" uses Yahoo! since we live in a world where Google exists. Yet that is demonstrably false - Yahoo!'s Alexa rank is in the top ten. Lots of people go there, driving up ad revenue. Matt Deres (talk) 15:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * For about 10 years, Yahoo has run a fairly robust original-content news division. Back a decade ago, sites like Yahoo News and Yahoo Sports were just aggregators, but those properties and other related sites like Yahoo Finance, which is the largest volume financial news site in the U.S., probably drive the bulk of Yahoo's traffic as fairly robust original content providers.  They have their own journalism staff, and write their own content.  When Yahoo! was bought by Verizon last year, they rolled these properties into Oath Inc., which serves as a holding company for much of Verizon's original news content sites.  Yahoo is still a brand with cache, even if it has moved from being primarily a search engine to primarily a content provider.  -- Jayron 32 11:06, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yahoo! may well have a cache, but I think the word you're looking for is cachet.  I don't really get this question - looking in yesterday's Financial Times there's no stock listing in that name.   Yahoo! is owned by Verizon, so the listing will be in that name.   According to the paper, Verizon shares are currently 47.76, about midway between their 52-week low of 42.80 and their high of 54.77. 2A00:23C0:FCF6:4801:41CD:4F5F:7568:FBDB (talk) 00:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Reminds me of the Tech Bubble when I drew a conglomerate of everything starship with [AOL logo]   ®  / AOL / Time-Warner / Microsoft-Yahoo-Exxon-Mobil /  Wal-Mart-K-Mart-Target-Macys-JC Penny  / ... /   long unreadbly small rows   /    nearly invisible litanous row     on the hull. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 15:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Arm day routine: what's missing?
I realize this is a not a fitness forum, but we have all sorts of experts here. I do the following on a typical arm day. I do not have a personal trainer and I'm wondering if I'm missing any important upper body muscles. (I am neglecting my core, I know--but I know how to improve that part of my workout.)

Warmup: pushups, pullups

Workout: the following, not one-by-one but cyclically, using dumbbells unless otherwise noted, 10-12 rep. Starred are the ones I feel I'm actually doing good at.
 * Bicep curls, elbows tight in
 * Shoulder raises? Not sure of the name, think Da Vinci's man
 * Row*
 * Standing triceps raises, w/ one dumbbell behind the head*
 * And about half the time I do either machine or DB or barbell bench press. Not confident in my form
 * Then I finish with trap raises with a trap bar.*

Any insight would be valued. Thank you!

Temerarius (talk) 04:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't know if your question technically qualifies as medical advice or not, but regardless I would heartily suggest you take your question to a qualified personal trainer. It's not just about us not dispensing advice, it's also about the fact that someone who can see you do the exercise in person can better tell what muscles are being missed. As you're no doubt aware, even a slight shift in the angle of a lift can impact which muscles get used. Your triceps, for example, are three distinct muscles - only by seeing you in person could it be determined that you're working them all appropriately. Matt Deres (talk) 16:11, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * And to add a note of pedantry, there is no such word as 'bicep'. Biceps is both singular and plural. Turner Street (talk) 08:49, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Check out Bicep before you get too sure of that. And then there's this. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Sneezing
Can you sneeze so hard you physically injure yourself?--WaltCip (talk) 12:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Of course. If you sneezed at the moment an unexpected wind would've almost made you lose your balance and fall off a cliff you could die. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The sneeze is only a circumstantial contributor to injury in that case. I'm referring to an actual physical injury caused directly by the act of sneezing.--WaltCip (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It also seems possible that a sneeze could be the straw that breaks the camel's back for something like a pitcher's elbow ligament stretched to almost the sudden breaking point where he could've thrown 1 more pitch if he hadn't sneezed at the worse possible part of the throw for a pitcher in that situation to sneeze. A doctor might know exactly how much less circumstantial it could get. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It is possible to have a hemorrhage triggered by a sneeze, but it is extremely uncommon. Even less common is atrial fibrillation triggered by a sneeze. These are so uncommon that all you will find are anecdotes that MIGHT be a cause-effect link. There is not enough data to make a rigorous study. Who would do that anyway? Would you volunteer to sneeze and see if it kills you? 209.149.113.5 (talk) 14:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Atrial fibrillation is not acutely life-threatening. Were you thinking of ventricular fibrillation? As for studies on things linked to increased deaths, that's not how you conduct them. Smoking wasn't linked to increased health risks by recruiting a bunch of people to smoke. You take people who are already smoking and track them. Also, a lot can be learned by reviewing public health statistics and medical records. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Here are a couple of articles the OP might wish to read, regarding injuring caused by sneezing, or by stiffling a sneeze: and . So the answer to the original question is yes. --Xuxl (talk) 14:30, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The Daily Mail? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "...the authors concluded that there was a similar risk of injury between real-world low-speed crashes and plopping in a chair or sneezing". Significant Spinal Injury Resulting From Low-Level Accelerations: A Case Series of Roller Coaster Injuries Freeman MD, Croft AC, Nicodemus CN, Centeno CJ, Elkins WL. Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation: November 2005, Volume 86, Issue 11, Pages 2126–2130. Alansplodge (talk) 15:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "My experience of back pain began ironically at a moment of great joy for me and my wife in June 2003—just before the birth of our second child. A few days before my wife went into labour, I sneezed, and so began a sequence of events that still affect me today". Spinal injury Correspondence to: P Carter: British Medical Journal 2013; 346 doi (Published 07 June 2013). Alansplodge (talk) 17:46, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I pulled a muscle in my back once when I sneezed. I was carrying a cup of something or other and didn’t want to spill it, so I had to awkwardly sneeze. Not a serious injury, and pure anecdata, but there you go. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:11, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I've popped a blood vessel in my eye once or twice because of a sneeze. Again, not exactly serious, but technically an injury. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You can injure yourself by not sneezing. Man ruptures throat by stifling a sneeze. BBC, 16 January 2018. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 19:16, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, that's not quite right. He still sneezed; sneezing is a reflex which is basically impossible to stop (or nearly so).  All he did was to sneeze, and redirect the air flow back into his throat, causing a tear from the massive pressures involved.  -- Jayron 32 23:39, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It's possible to kind of stifle a sneeze to an extent. I don't know if that's a good idea or not. In any case, I know someone who had some delicate dental work, and they were told that for a couple of weeks, if a sneeze was coming on, to sneeze with the mouth open. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You can do way more damage by stifling a sneeze than by letting it happen. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:42, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Possibly. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:57, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That's what "can" means. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:34, 22 May 2018 (UTC)