Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2018 November 29

= November 29 =

Best practices to defend yourself against doxing and harassment (both online and offline that originated from online behavior)
Could you point me to various resources that indicate the best practices to protect yourself from doxing and other forms of online (and offline) harassment? I found this source so far: https://onlinesafety.feministfrequency.com/en/ which seems great, but I am particularly having a hard time finding pages on Wikipedia that give guidance related to that and wonder if it already exists. I would like to update it and am wondering if you all can help me find good resources to educate myself and potentially incorporate. Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 04:28, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not (should not) offer guidance of any kind. If we have an article that reads as such, it should be edited or deleted. We do have articles about doxing, identity theft, and many related articles (lots of links in the articles I linked here). Matt Deres (talk) 14:28, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, . You're right. But I seem to recall some kind of Wikipedia page (perhaps it doesn't count as an "article" but maybe it was an essay or some kind of supplement to a guideline) that talked about doxing, privacy, and harassment while using Wikipedia. I'll likely find it eventually, but since I'm a new editor I figure those of you with more experience can help me get to it faster. I am also still interested in other pages that provide high quality advice and guidelines around this topic. Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 21:44, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has a policy, Harassment, which includes a section on posting of personal information, which includes (in the last sentence of that section) links to various essays:
 * Personal security practices
 * On privacy, confidentiality and discretion
 * How to not get outed on Wikipedia
 * Those essays in turn include links (eg under "See also") to other relevant essays. These are all specific to Wikipedia, although some of the general concepts may apply to other online environments. Mitch Ames (talk) 01:14, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Capital of Myanmar(Burma)
Is the capital of Myanmar Naypyidaw, Rangoon, or both? I've seen multiple sources that say the capital is Rangoon, but the Wikipedia article for Myanmar says the capital is Naypyidaw. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danleugers (talk • contribs) 16:10, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Naypyidaw is a fairly new planned city; it only started being built in 2002, and government functions were only started to be moved there in late 2005; the official change from Yangon to Naypyidaw was done on 27 March 2006. 12 years is not a lot of time, and many sources probably never were updated, or copy old information.  Wikipedia tends to be more up to date.  As a counterpoint, this thread at Quora captures the sentiment that even in Myanmar, no one really thinks of it as the Capital, Yangon still has the cache of a major world city, Naypyidaw is basically a bunch of government buildings out in the wilderness.  Still, when you type "capital of Myanmar" into google, It clearly identifies it as Naypyidaw.  So, your answer is "yes, it really is Naypyidaw, and if a source says otherwise, it is just outdated."-- Jayron 32 16:23, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note, Rangoon (2 o's) became Yangon (one o). --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  20:30, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * So corrected. Thank you.  -- Jayron 32 21:31, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * My impression is that for a few years after the move, some sources intentionally did not recognise the change due to their view of the military junta government as illegitimate, similar to the way they still called Myanmar as Burma or Rangoon as Yangon for that reason. (Others had different reasons.) This changed after the Myanmar general election, 2015 and Aung San Suu Kyi and her party gaining significant power (e.g. Aung San Suu Kyi as State Counsellor of Myanmar). This means while sources may be outdated, they may not be as severely so as you would expect. While Aung San Suu Kyi and her government has come under severe criticism for their handling of the 2016 Rohingya persecution in Myanmar and treatment of Rohingya in general (and to a less extent some other ethnic minorities), I think most still accept it as a legitimate government of Myanmar since it seems to retain the support of most of the population even if one potentially guilty allowing ethnic cleansing and genocide and also the changes were already accepted. Nil Einne (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * BTW, I should clarify that there's obviously a difference between what you call something and a capital city and I expect many sources even those which didn't recognise the new capital would provide some clarification via a footnote to avoid confusion but it also depends on the circumstances. For example someone writing a blog may choose to talk about Rangoon the capital of Myanmar and provide no clarification whether via footnote or hyperlink, especially if they've written about the issue sometime before. Nil Einne (talk) 04:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! I think I understand now. Danleugers (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)