Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2019 April 8

= April 8 =

Hemingway
Please could someone provide me with the address or link to Google maps, for the home owned by Ernest Hemingway in Ketchum Idaho. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.40.58 (talk) 10:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Here is the website for the House. It is currently owned by a group called "The Community Library", and while it doesn't list the exact street address of the house, there is contact information, including a phone number and email address.  Just ask them.  -- Jayron 32 11:56, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Gmaps says here; the knowledge graph says 400 E Canyon Run Blvd, Ketchum, ID 83340. So no real need for the anon to post here at all :)   ——  SerialNumber  54129  12:04, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Candy Quest more important than Lenin
Please see: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/photos/100-iconic-photos-that-capture-100-years-of-world-history/ss-BBVIOdF?ocid=spartandhp#image=3

It would appear to me that, the man in the front row, first to the right of Lenin is looking at his phone. This is of course not possible. Please offer explanation on what he is doing. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.40.58 (talk) 12:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Zooming in a bit (press Ctrl and + at the same time) seems to show that he is holding the muzzle of a rifle. The chap next to him is doing the same except his has a fixed bayonet. At a guess, it's probably a Mosin–Nagant which was a big long thing, about 4 feet long. Alansplodge (talk) 12:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * BTW, the same image is here (the MSN link seems to have already broken somehow). This link also has the text of Lenin's speech, which may explain why the man with the funny moustache doesn't look terribly interested. Alansplodge (talk) 14:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Access to IOP
I am trying to access this PDF at IOP. Some time ago I was offered access to a number of similar sites, but I don't recall if IOP was one of them. Can anyone jog my memory? Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Well probably none of us here know who offered you what. But, someone at WP:RX can probably help you get that pdf. 173.228.123.166 (talk) 20:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Are you thinking of the Wikipedia:Wikipedia Library? Regular contributors to articles who have accounts and do not have access to the resources via other means can apply for access to certain resources from organisations who have decided to partner with the WMF. As I understand it, you log in here [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/] and can then apply for access to those resources that you need. I suspect you'll need to be reasonably likely to need access to more than one article to improve wikipedia since otherwise it'll be better to simply ask at REX as the IP mentioned. (Admittedly I don't see any mention of any other requirements other than the minimum ones which aren't very stringent [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/about/#req] even for waitlisted partners [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/24/] [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/61/] [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/58/] except for stuff like the need for a real name. So either it's just poorly specified or they've just leaving it up to the partner and/or contributors to consider if they really need access.) Some partners also have a waitlist (i.e. there are more people wanting access than the publisher is willing to provide at one time). Note in any case that IOP is not on the list of partners [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/partners/]. You can suggest partners here [//wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/suggest/] but I'm not sure how useful that is especially for major publishers of science material. (As I expect they've already had feelers outs.) Nil Einne (talk) 03:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * P.S. If you're thinking of Sci-Hub+LibGen, most of us, whatever our personal views of the current nature of scientific publishing, consider that discussing it's use for content is highly questionable considering WP:COPYVIOEL despite a certain editor's view to the contrary. So it would be best if you don't ask about it here. Nil Einne (talk) 04:15, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that there is no requirement that we link to an article in WP:CITE, only that we give full bibliographic information so someone else can find the paper on their own. If someone is using Sci-Hub to find a paper, and then they cite the paper without a link, there is no Wikipedia policy violation, nor does anyone even have to know someone used Sci-Hub.  -- Jayron 32 16:05, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Right but the point is asking for help using Sci-Hub here let alone directing them to it to find resources (as a certain editor likes to do), is quite questionable. So we can direct you to Wikipedia Library, which may be what is being thought of Newspaperarchive.com/Approved, but doesn't have IOP. Or we can suggest you try other suitable avenues where such concerns don't arise, like REX. However if it isn't The Wikipedia Library you're thinking of but instead is Sci-Hub+Lib Gen, then sorry, this isn't something IMO we can help you with. Even my mention here wasn't ideal, but I felt it better to give some minimum mention before a certain other editor shows up and starts advocating its use again. In other words, if you want to use Sci-Hub+Lib Gen privately, that's up to you. But don't ask for help using it, and especially don't advocate its use on wikipedia. And if you forget what it's called sorry but we can't help you. P.S. I probably should have linked to WP:LINKVIO rather than ELNEVER, as it makes it clearer that it's not just about direct links. Nil Einne (talk) 07:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

This seems to have gone off the rails. What's all this about sci-hub? Is there a way to access this article or not? This is the reference desk, is this not the place to ask? Should I be on RX? This shouldn't be this confusing. Maury Markowitz (talk) 01:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If you're looking for help with accessing a known reference, but for which you lack the ability to (such as being behind a paywall, or something like that), you'll want to check out the sister project WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. This desk is more tuned to finding as-yet-unknown references to provide information for which you don't even know where to look.  If you've got a particular reference already in mind, and just need access to it, WP:RX is the place to be.  -- Jayron 32 10:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)