Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2019 December 4

= December 4 =

Italian land Item
What is the purpose and use for the two items shown here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/73010+Eurovillage+Province+of+Lecce,+Italy/@40.3247616,17.8117234,6029m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x1346999b6faf8771:0xe65a519295e33f01!2s73010+Porto+Cesareo,+Province+of+Lecce,+Italy!3b1!8m2!3d40.260374!4d17.8930913!3m4!1s0x134690dd5fdb2ad7:0xd5db3d01d5344eab!8m2!3d40.3057781!4d17.8210258

The first an most obvious is the almost(?) perfect circle and the second in much smaller and to the right and is oval. Are there race tracks? Is so they appear to be HUGE! Thanks. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 10:19, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's the Nardò Ring. --Wrongfilter (talk) 10:22, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Danke. Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 14:11, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Ontrac package delivery
Anyone have experience with them? I'm expecting a package from southern California that was supposed to be delivered yesterday. They updated their tracking page around 8am yesterday saying the package had arrived at their Hayward, CA depot but delivery was delayed by a linehaul mechanical issue ("linehaul" per wiktionary is a truck route between distant cities, but Hayward is about 20 miles from here). They kept predicting a yesterday delivery until 11pm yesterday, then updated it to "next business day" and now they say today by end of day, but their "end of day" is 9pm. I called their 800 number and gave up waiting on hold after 26 minutes. Do they just suck? Is it unreasonable to think that if they had trouble with a truck in Hayward, they could have just rolled out another truck instead of possibly messing up deliveries for the whole bay area? I had figured an 8am problem in Hayward could result in a few hours delay, not a whole day. As of this morning the package was at another depot around 10 miles from here. I could easily pick it up at the depot if they could tell me it was still there. Whenever I've had issues with Fedex or UPS, I've always been able to get them on the phone. Maybe semi-rant but maybe someone has dealt with this. I'm not in a dire hurry for the package but would like to have some idea of when they are going to bring it, since if it's after 7pm I may have to make arrangements for them to get into the facility and that's not so easy since they don't answer the phone. Thanks. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 22:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Added: lol, they guarantee to refund/credit the shipper for late deliveries, unless for a bunch of causes including mechanical delays. IOW they disclaim responsible for keeping their own trucks in operating condition. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 23:26, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Reached them on the phone, about 28 minutes hold time, now they say there is another 24 hour delay so it takes them a full day to move the package 10 miles to here, after taking a full day to move it 20 miles from Hayward to the more nearby depot. This is an overnight shipper, lol.  They say they are delivering til midnight or 1am because of volume. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 00:13, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * While I don't know much about the industry, my impression is at this time of the year, most courier or postage services are operating at maximum capacity and so it is likely to be quite difficult to simply find a a spare truck, not to mention if the truck broke down on route, you'd need to find some way to unload it and load this spare truck. Also, customer service operations are likewise experiencing very high demands, so call answering times will likely be delayed although it is likely also true that the fancier more expensive operations will respond faster. Depending precisely on the size of the operation and how their customer service operates (is it nationwide, or over a more restrictive area of their operation), a break down which causes delays may also have a reasonable impact on their customer services. Nil Einne (talk) 06:44, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The package came today so I'm less annoyed now.  Some parts of the above make sense, other issues with the shipper still seem silly, but I'll stop worrying about it.  67.164.113.165 (talk) 22:17, 5 December 2019 (UTC)