Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2019 October 18

= October 18 =

another request
So, still working on the workers day article and i am having trouble sourcing something again. But a specific statement this time. In regards to Brazil the article as of now reads "... It is also when salaries for most professional categories and the minimum wage are traditionally readjusted.", on labour day that is. Now, that is a somewhat unique thing, but i am having trouble with finding a source. NMaybe it is a past tradition, who knows what and how Brazil is doing things now anyway under... i rather not say what i think here lol. Besides the point anyway. But i am having issues finding anything about the matter. I am probably just not using the right search terms as i just get many results about the general labour laws or general data on the minimum wage in the country, yet nothing about the specified 'tradition' on 1 May. Not being able to speak Portuguese does not help it either of course. Because of its somewhat unique nature i would like to leave that statement in, or at least go into how it was a thing and then changed over time or whatever. So, to recap my question: Can someone help me find a source that talks about how the minimum wage, among others, gets traditionally adjusted on 1 May in Brazil? Cheers for any help on the matter. 2003:D6:2729:FF8D:19DA:2C8:FA93:649C (talk) 00:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * "According to a Federal Decree in 2011, the minimum wage will follow these guidelines: A base minimum wage of BLR 545 for 2011, A yearly adjustment that is to be made to the minimum wage every January 1st.". DroneB (talk) 14:02, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Wonder if it is a hoax in the article or if there is at least some basis in reality for the claim. Will remove it tomorrow, on a mobile device now and editing on that is horrible. Cheers 2003:D6:2729:FF14:6537:58EC:E91D:6242 (talk) 19:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)


 * In the future, please pick a title that lets us know what the question is about. SinisterLefty (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Scranton, Pen
Does anyone know the address where Peter Steele died in Scranton Pennsylvania? Perhaps Planet  Star  can help? Also what were the circumstances surrounding this? Was he alone, was he rushed to hospital? Was this weightlifting, steroid or drug related? My main query would be an address where he was living when he passed. Thanks Anton 81.131.40.58 (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Parts of a bowl
Besides the basic bowl of glass or clay or whatever, some bowls are held inside a decorative metal wire frame. Sometimes it is suggestive of what the bowl is going to hold, such as grape leaves decorating a fruit bowl. Is there a name for this metal piece? Our article doesn't seem to go into that (it's not in great shape). I thought this or this might be useful, but they're kind of restricted to discussing the parts of a simple bowl (rim, well, handle, etc). I'm struggling to find a photo, but picture this sitting inside that, but where the metal part really couldn't function on its own. Any help? Matt Deres (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Note that it may have originally been functional. That is, if a the bowl was round on the bottom, it would need the metal stand to keep from wobbling, and having it offset from a cold table would also keep the contents warm longer. So why would the ancients have created a bowl that was round on the bottom in the first place ? Could be they were limited by the material, such as coconut shell, turtle shell, etc., or perhaps manufacturing method (a clay bowl of nonuniform thickness might have been more likely to crack when fired). Then, over time, the stand could have become merely decorative. SinisterLefty (talk) 17:46, 18 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't know how to respond to that. In what way was that supposed to be helpful? Matt Deres (talk) 14:18, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * First, I gave you an actual name: "stand". Googling under this term finds many pics of such items: . I thought you could do that much, since I already provided the word. There may also be other names for it. So, the idea here was that you would look at those items and decide if that is what you are looking for.


 * Second, since you seemed to only be aware of the decorative versions, I pointed out that there are also functional versions, so you will need to differentiate between the two, either when searching for such items, or if you, or another reader, choose to update our bowl article with this info. SinisterLefty (talk) 16:28, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Note that the pic you provided didn't appear to show feet, or even a flat spot, on the bottom, although there could be very small feet or a flat not visible. If it is your intention to exclude all bowl stands with feet, you need to say so explicitly. There were/are also hanging frames for bowls to hang from the top or side, but I don't think you are asking about those. (The 2nd is a pet bowl, but with some searching you might find a similar bowl for human use, perhaps for attachment to a pegboard for storage of loose items.)


 * If you meant to exclude all stands, and frames with attachment points for hanging, then the only other way I can imagine it could be used is held in the lap or hands, with the latter perhaps for ceremonial purposes (for passing out items), or sitting in a basin. Knowing the intended use will help with Google searches. For example, searching under hand-held bowls yields this result, designed to keep ice cream cold or hot foods warm, while holding it in your lap or hands: . SinisterLefty (talk) 16:50, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * These examples use terms like "frame", "holder", and "stand":     Bus stop (talk) 03:10, 25 October 2019 (UTC)