Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2019 October 5

= October 5 =

Papa Westray
Hi there. I have read that this island has with an air connection to its neighbour island the shortest flight in the world. I read that there are living like 555 people on one island, 90 on the other one - my question is:
 * who needs this flight for real?
 * why don't they built a bridge?
 * can I buy online such a ticket for 7 pounds (GBP) like the article describe the price? is there even a plan how often the flight goes? (sounds not very "rentable", a stupid bus ticket in a city must be more expensive)-01:41, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I imagine they need to travel to the next island for all the usual reasons: to buy supplies, sell their goods, seek medical help, for schooling, to socialize, etc. A bridge would be rather expensive per person who used it. (If it was part of a chain of islands like the Florida keys, and this bridge would be one link in the chain, then maybe that cost could be justified.) A ferry would be the usual solution for isolated islands, but I assume there's some reason it won't work here (treacherous currents, no port facility or anchorage on one island, etc.). SinisterLefty (talk) 03:06, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * There are ferries. See the article. --76.69.116.4 (talk) 04:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * You can book tickets on Logan Air's website. Cost appears to be £7.25.  Rojomoke (talk) 05:05, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * We have an article Westray to Papa Westray flight which has some details. It's a subsidised public service obligation. Building bridges and other things were put to consultation in 2014 but it's not mentioned what happened after. Using electric aircraft from 2021 seems to also be under consideration from the operator although the source sounds make me think it's a real pie in the sky suggestion. Nil Einne (talk) 18:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

question 2
How often does the airplane needs to get a gasoline refile, for me it feels like the airplane can fly this track from the one island to the other one, 900 times till it gets empty to be honest.

Thanks!-46.167.62.33 (talk) 01:41, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * It might be more often than you would think, since starting it up, taking off, and gaining altitude uses more gas than the cruising phase for such a short trip. SinisterLefty (talk) 03:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Searching "Papa Westray Air Ferry" on a well known video-hosting site (with "Tube" and "You" in its one-word name) immediately yields many videos (so many that I haven't picked out any in particular to link here) about this precise subject, some of which will doubtless answer these questions and others: watching any of them gives a good impression of the topography involved. I just timed one of them, and the wheels-up to wheels-down interval was 1m 31s. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.161.82 (talk) 03:37, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There's only one flight per day in each direction (around 9-10am for Westray -> Papa, 3-4pm for Papa -> Westray). IIRC, it's part of an Island Hopper service going in a circular route, staring and ending in Inverness Airport. LongHairedFop (talk) 10:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

where is the page on how chicago got the name chiraq?
i last looked at the page about 1 and a half to 2 years ago and i went search for it today and the page doesnt exist anymore it talked about how many gang deaths that happened in 2011 vs the iraq war giving it the name chiraq so what happened to this page because i went to show a buddy because he didnt believe me and i looked it and it was just gone as if it was never even a real page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.215.72 (talk) 03:53, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * You appear to be looking for Chi-Raq, which explains the name at one point. --76.69.116.4 (talk) 04:18, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The redirect from "chiraq" was changed to point to the movie rather than Crime in Chicago. However, the section in that article about Chiraq was removed over four years ago. Anyway, the specific statistic that's usually cited is that there have been more Americans killed in Chicago than American soldiers killed in Afghanistan in the same period Source. Iraq is not quite the same comparison. It had consistently more American soldier deaths than murders in Chicago year over year until the death rate began to fall dramatically mid-2007, but since then the murders in Chicago have been more frequent. Of course total deaths in both wars vastly outpace the homicide rate in Chicago, but it's accurate to say that more Americans have been killed in Chicago during the Afghan war than have been killed in Afghanistan. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:23, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * As an aside, does Chi-Raq have anything to do with Chirac? They sound similar. J I P  &#124; Talk 09:55, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Not if you pronounce it properly. Alansplodge (talk) 14:59, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * But Chi-Raq comes from Chicago, which is pronounced /ʃɪˈkɑːɡoʊ/, not /ʃaɪˈkɑːɡoʊ/. So Chi-Raq looks like it would be pronounced /ʃɪˈræk/, sounding like Chirac's native pronunciation /ʃiʁak/. (I had to copy-and-paste all the fancy IPA symbols.) J I P  &#124; Talk 16:30, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The city is also called "Chi-town", which is pronounced SHY-town. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:37, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected and apologise. However, the answer is still no as far as I can tell. Alansplodge (talk) 19:15, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Bias
It appears to me as a reader, that Wikipedia, which has always been my "Go To Page" for information on numerous items. I am now seeing a lot of pollical bias on your site,. I am sorely disappointed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6500:1621:1:8E2E:B244:3264:53B1 (talk) 20:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What's stopping you from trying to improve it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:34, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Examples? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:30, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The Wikipedia policy on these things is at Neutral point of view. Of course, because Wikipedia can be edited by anybody, it's difficult to ensure that neutrality is always adhered to, especially as these things can be rather subjective. If you think that these rules are being breached, you can either change it yourself (as suggested above), or put a note on the article's talk page, or on the appropriate WikiProject talk page (a banner on the article talk page will show you where), or you can flag it up with us at the RefDesk or at the Help Desk. But remember, one person's neutral point of view may seem biased to somebody with different beliefs, so sometimes a compromise has to be reached. Alansplodge (talk) 14:58, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * "pollical" :) --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:28, 7 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Rhymes with comical. SinisterLefty (talk) 22:48, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Not really. But it does with follicle.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]