Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2020 January 27

= January 27 =

Barbie princess pauper
I understand that classic is a word that's thrown around a lot and opinionated. I asked a lot of questions on here not realising the term isn't what I thought it would be. I thought it was certain things old still popular and valuable. However I gave up on the word because it's pointless living your life believing this word could help you get better with people. But anyway one day I was on here looking at barbie princess pauper its considered to be best barbie film but does that mean its a classic?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_as_the_Princess_and_the_Pauper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:2D82:A885:55F2:C5D2 (talk) 12:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Has someone, like a reputable movie critic or other well-known and well-respected source, called it a classic? That's generally how you would know.  Look for what others have already decided about it.  The term is not quantitatively defined, and depends on a combination of collective opinion of many people, and on the published opinions of respected critics and the like. -- Jayron 32 13:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * From where would anyone derive that "classic" is strictly defined? Bus stop (talk) 17:09, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's a "classic" within the Barbie series, relatively speaking. (Though my favorite was Barbie Meets Godzilla.) Like which film within the Police Academy series would be the classic, relative to the series as a whole? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * To be honest I'd rather sit through Mission to Moscow than the average movie today 89.172.78.189 (talk) 16:58, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Truth be told, every episode of every iteration of Degrassi aged horribly, relative to the original and authentic Canadian coming-of-age masterpiece, Rebel High. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:10, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Being the best in a series doesn't necessarily mean it's a classic (unless it's plans from outer space) . The best model Trabant isn't one. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

A contemporary work may be hailed as an instant classic, but the criteria for classic status tends to include the test of time. What does this mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:705C:4591:4BCD:3EB2 (talk) 09:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's pretty close to something in the archives from a few months back. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:34, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * It appears that Barbie as the Princess and the Pauper uses the term "classic" in reference to its source material, The Prince and the Pauper, rather than trying to claim that the Barbie movie itself is a "classic". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think Bugs is right about that, The Prince and the Pauper is an old, popular Mark Twain story, so it is what is being described as "classic". -- Jayron 32 13:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * It would be a mistake to think that there is absolute certainty in categorizing anything as being "classic" and it would be a mistake to think that there is absolute certainty in categorizing anything as being "iconic". Bus stop (talk) 05:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I've gotten to the point where I'm wondering if classics are important or not. Should you waste your time on this? It's like figuring out test of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7427:6B00:9819:E5B:4CAB:553 (talk) 11:32, 2 February 2020 (UTC)