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= July 19 =

Organized crime figure gunned down early 2020? (Solved)
Who was that US-based organized crime boss who was videotaped being assassinated in early 2020? There was dramatic footage of two assassins exiting an SUV on the side of a crowded street, Weaver stance and fire about five rounds then move forward to ascertain the target's dead and then get back in the SUV and peel away. It was major news for about a week, then completely disappeared from my view and the usual Google searches don't turn up anything. 86.106.90.99 (talk) 04:41, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * '''(Solved now) For anyone curious, it was the leader of the Pagans Motorcycle Club in New York and it was just in May, and the video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67xOLxZ9J5I


 * Was it major news nationally or maybe only in your city? If so, what city? --174.89.49.204 (talk) 17:58, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The date and details don't really match, but could you be misremembering the killing of Frank Cali? --Khajidha (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Was not thinking of Cali, but now that you mention it I do remember him as well; I THINK the one in the original post was also New York but not 100% sure, it made international headlines because of the surveillance footage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.106.90.101 (talk) 20:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I recall the story, it was in New York, or thereabouts and yes, I believe it was linked to the Gambino family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.130.137 (talk) 08:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)



Palestinian Pound from the year 1935
I would be grateful if a user could please tell me what WITH LINKAGE the value of a Palestinian Pound from the date 8 July 1935 would be today? Thank you. Simonschaim (talk) 10:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The Palestinian pound was issued at par with the British pound (i.e. both are of the same value).  Gold pounds (issued prior to 1935) are fractionally heavier than gold sovereigns, which are of course worth far more than their face value. 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:6900:274:458:F067 (talk) 12:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. A further question is what would be the value of one Palestine Pound of 1935 in Israel today in Israeli currency, namely Shekalim? Thank you.217.132.18.26 (talk) 13:33, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


 * See Currency of Israel.  The Israeli pound was the successor to the Palestinian pound.   The shekel was valued at ten Israeli pounds.   The new shekel was valued at 1,000 old ones.   Now here's one for you - the article says coins are dated using the anno mundi (A.M.) system.   Does this mean that the year is incremented by one on the first coins to be minted after 29 Ellul? 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:6900:274:458:F067 (talk) 13:58, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your very useful answer. Now to answer your question:The Jewish New Year begins on 1 Tishri which is the day after 29 Elul. Namely the last 29 Elul was in the year 5779 and the following day 1 Tishri was in the year 5780. Theoretically or maybe even practically, at the beginning of 5780 the coins should be stamped with the new year 5780. 217.132.18.26 (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Methods of counting votes in punch-card voting systems
From what I know, the computer software summarized the votes and the relative percentages for each canidate, but before the advent of the computers themselves, the results were printed and the process was the same? I mean, the sheet automatically showed the number of votes, and the automatic calculation of the percentage for each office? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.100.198 (talk) 22:10, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you have any evidence any voting machine has ever computed the percentage? The raw numbers are what are needed. The percentage is a trivial calculation anyone can do for themselves. Rmhermen (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I will answer prase-by-phrase
 * "the computer software". There is no single set of computer software. Each jurisdiction selects whatever software they deem appropriate.
 * "the results were printed and the process was the same?" Computers have been in use with punch card equipment since the 1950s (or maybe the 1940s). Presumably non-computerized computer card counting machines continued to be used even after they were outdated. It would be quite a project to figure out what the exact procedures were for using such equipment back in the 1950s to 1970s.
 * "the sheet automatically showed the number of votes." Umm, what sheet would that be? There are several stages in counting votes, each of which has results written down:
 * the raw results output by the voting machine
 * the votes on ballots that contain write-ins, which must be added to the above. In the jurisdiction where I'm an election official, this process is done with paper, pen, and hand calculator.
 * the combining of votes from various polling places to create preliminary results for each election district. Election districts are distinct for each class of office (for example, justice of the peace, school board member, representative in the state house, representative to Congress, president, etc.) These election districts may overlap in complicated ways.
 * the preparation and signing of the official certified results for each office.
 * for the office of president of the United States, the preparation by the members of the Electoral College in each state of a report for transmission to the Congress.
 * I am not aware of any requirement in any of the above to compute percentages. Election officials at various levels might choose to do so as a matter of good public relations, but I've served as an election official for 5 years and never once computed, or signed off on, a percentage. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well of course.  If the system is anything like it is here, on completion of the count the teller hands the total votes cast for each candidate (plus the number of spoiled ballots) to the Returning Officer who announces (in alphabetical order) the votes cast for each candidate and declares the winner.   The loudness of the cheers as each total is announced depends on how many of the totals for other likely winners have already been announced.   The only relevance of percentages is that any candidate who got less than 12.5% of the total vote lost her deposit.   The results are duly reported by the press, who add in the details of percentages, swings, etc. 150.143.96.88 (talk) 09:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Where "here" is the U.K.? --Lambiam 21:54, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Possibly not: in UK Parliamentary elections the deposit is lost for vote shares under 5%: for elsewhere, see Election deposit. It was 12.5% in the UK prior to 1986, and is so in Singapore. The other details the IP cites are however, accurate to my (aged UK voter) knowledge. {The poster formerly knownas 87.81.230.195} 90.200.41.197 (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2020 (UTC)