Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2020 July 28

= July 28 =

Question on the Referencing Web-Based Video Game News Outlets
Hi, I'm currently writing an article about a video game website, but my submission was declined due to a lack of proper sources. I was wondering which of the following websites I could cite as a credible source, and how I can check if websites meet the notability guidelines. Here are the websites:

Eurogamer CNET Polygon NME Game Rant Launcher, The Washington Post Video Game Outlet BGR Mashable Gamesradar Sick Critic HappyGamer Nintendo Wire

Which of the above can be considered credible, if any? And how should I go about finding credible websites to cite (bearing in mind that this kind of thing isn't present on JSTOR or Google Scholar)?

Thanks in advance. Squid45 (talk) 08:41, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Name needed (done)
Hi, does anybody know this guy's name, or can anybody find an image of his face?--Hildeoc (talk) 10:57, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That is NSFW, and you should have marked it as such. --Viennese Waltz 11:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, what the fuck? Way to confuse Wikipedia with Grindr  :o  ——  Serial  11:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * VW / SN54129, did the content of that page change or do you usually consider photos of male bodybuilders without shirts as being NSFW? (It's certainly not appropriate for work, in the sense of, "What are you doing messing around online?  Get back to work!") -- ToE 14:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Umm, it actually says NSFW on the page itself. --Viennese Waltz 16:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yet saying doesn't make it so (unless you're a Thai driving a silver sedan with a "รถคันนี้เป็นสีแดง" bumper sticker). I do suppose those NIELKNIVLAs are skivvies and not exercise shorts, but the photo in question is considerably less suggestive than Times Square billboards. -- ToE 13:03, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like it's instagrammer and youtuber David Laid. Here's an article in Muscle & Fitness. ---Sluzzelin talk  11:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * A big sorry for that! Honestly, I thought it's still harmless – just a handsome athlete … Thanks a lot! Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 11:51, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ha! :)  ——  Serial  12:26, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Never having encountered the acronym before, I guessed what it meant from the discussion, and I was right. 87.74.53.154 (talk) 11:36, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Your mate Poetlister coud've explained it you :)   ——  Serial  12:26, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Shirts as worn by male athletes
In the case of high intensity sports such as running and tennis, men of course wear shirts (running tops, T-shirts, whatever). I'm wondering if there is some particular reason or advantage to this over going bare-chested. Obviously, in a competitive environment, a runner needs something to pin his race number on. But, other things being equal, wouldn't it be more comfortable for a man not to wear anything above the waist? He would be able to move more freely and the sweat would run off his upper body rather than staying in the shirt. --Viennese Waltz 11:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Many men may just not feel comfortable being seen by large crowds with no shirt on. Especially in situations where they are already the focus of attention, as opposed to situations such as visiting a beach.--Khajidha (talk) 14:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Notable exception: Vladimir Putin. 2606:A000:1126:28D:4443:261:7B54:B476 (talk) 16:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * ObPersonal: My own experience from both sports shirted and unshirted ("skins v. shirts" used to be a common and easy means of differentiating teams in informal settings) and from going bare-topped in a hot climate is that a shirt is preferable because
 * (a) sweat running down the skin is more irritating and distracting than the feel of a damp sports shirt,
 * (b) a shirt of the appropriate material will wick excess sweat from the body and actually enhance its evaporative cooling effect,
 * (c) by reflecting sunlight and shading the skin, a shirt helps to regulate body temperature (which is probably elevated from the physical activity involved), and
 * (d) even a thin shirt provides some protection from grazes if one trips, stumbles or otherwise falls to the ground.
 * For a frequently active sportsman there is also the issue of excessive sun exposure potentially leading both to sunburn and to increased risk of melanoma.
 * In addition to the above, shirts afford a means of team identification where it is a factor in the event or meeting. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.221.80.201 (talk) 17:28, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Those Safety Pins - Perfect for attaching race numbers to competitors would make ones eyes water a bit I should think. Alansplodge (talk) 19:01, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah thanks but I already made that point in my OP. Thanks to 2.* for a very helpful answer. --Viennese Waltz 19:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The Gaylympics should just paint the numbers on the men. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:14, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sports often have dress codes. For example, for Olympic ice skaters, the men must wear full length trousers and (AFAIK) women can't wear trousers. TrogWoolley (talk) 13:45, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Women in singles and pairs are now allowed to wear pants or tights in competition. That's a fairly recent rule. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:59, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think by "pants" Bugs means long trousers or "slacks" as opposed to something like this. 2A02:C7F:D63F:AF00:341F:2FFA:7951:1E9C (talk) 10:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, in America "pants", "trousers" and "slacks" are synonyms. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:16, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Why are bread tying guitar picks (name?) complex and asymmetric?
Only the hole and funnel of the shape seem functional to me, why does the rest need to be bumpy and asymmetrical? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This doohickey? 2606:A000:1126:28D:4443:261:7B54:B476 (talk) 19:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * There's some interesting info here: [] The Kwik Lok website [] provides more clues.  Note how the bumps ("palps") mesh with the indentations on the roll of tags. Hard to explain, but this arrangement is better for machine automation; they would separate as needed, and are less likely to separate inadvertently. 2606:A000:1126:28D:4443:261:7B54:B476 (talk) 20:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Aha! There is an article: Bread clip. 2606:A000:1126:28D:4443:261:7B54:B476 (talk) 00:41, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Aka: Occlupanids --2606:A000:1126:28D:4443:261:7B54:B476 (talk) 00:52, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Very interesting, thanks. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, SMG; does your title suggest that people actually use these as plectra? I'll have to try that if I can get hold of one – round my way (UK) they were replaced by one-sided sticky tape strips several years ago. (The latter have non-stick ends so as to be easily unsealed and resealed, and have the sell-by date and other codes printed on the outside surface.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.221.80.201 (talk) 07:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The tape is in America too but the tab is still very common. I wouldn't know and would like to find out, maybe there's a way of plucking with them that sounds good? If no angle or permutation is worth it (not even putting the string in the hole and pulling) then I guess making the tag thicker by gluing more than one tag might work. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Twist ties are still pretty common in my part of the US. These doohickies are known, but I've never seen the tape thing.--Khajidha (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've run into them from time to time, and they're usually a pain to deal with. Typically I would cut them off and replace with a normal twist-tie. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * An article published in the British Medical Journal called Plastic bag clip discovered in partial colectomy accompanying proposal for phylogenic plastic bag clip classification (5 Sep 2011) says: "Over 20 cases of accidental ingestion of plastic bag clips have been published. Known complications include small bowel perforation, obstruction, dysphagia, gastrointestinal bleeding and colonic impaction". The authors also say that "The path of eradication has already been taken in the UK where plastic clips have been replaced by tape for safety reasons". Alansplodge (talk) 11:30, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm having trouble finding a date for the UK bread clip ban so that we can add it to the article. From memory maybe 20 years ago. Any ideas? Alansplodge (talk) 12:43, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't think thay can actually be banned in the UK, since I bought a loaf which used that kind of closure in Tesco a week or so ago.--Phil Holmes (talk) 15:16, 31 July 2020 (UTC)