Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2020 March 23

= March 23 =

copyright backlog
The WP:CP page has a large backlog dating back to October last year. Why does it take so long to clear the backlog? 92.9.155.54 (talk) 16:49, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Many to-do lists on Wikipedia have backlogs, some rather long. There are a few reasons for this. Chief among them is that everything done here is done by volunteers, so stuff that's not seen as fun or exciting gets pushed onto the back burner. In this specific case, investigating copyright issues also sometimes requires delicate forensics work, which takes more time and effort. However, the question could be answered another way: there's a backlog because you haven't taken care of it. So long as you act in good faith and have a modicum of grey matter, you can help out in almost any area requiring it. If you're unsure about how to start, check the talk page or message a regular about what needs doing. Matt Deres (talk) 17:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Where is excedrin migraine manufactured or how can I find out?
You have all kinds of information about excedrin and who manufactures it, but nothing about where its manufactured or how to find out where its manufactured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Girl firefighter (talk • contribs) 18:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Excedrin Migraine Caplets and Geltabs were manufactured at Glaxo SmithKline plant "east of Lincoln" (Nebraska); however, there is a temporary shutdown: —2606:A000:1126:28D:84D2:605C:6AE4:3CC7 (talk) 22:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And note that all the products listed in Excedrin (brand) are just combinations of generic drugs available for forever. In fact Excedrin even redirects to aspirin/paracetamol/caffeine, which is the combination formulation most widely marketed under that brand name. In developed countries the exact same stuff, exactly as safe, is available as generic/store brands, both as the combination and individually. You're paying extra for a name and fancier packaging. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 05:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

a host at Wikipedia talk: Teahouse
I want to become a host at Wikipedia talk: Teahouse. It won't let me because I just created this account and I haven't edited enough. I understand Wikipedianbecause I had another account but my daughter deleted it. I was wondering if you could grant me permission to become a host on Wikipedia talk: Teahouse. Thanks! - Mia Sedillo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Queen1019 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Accounts cannot be deleted, so it still exists. You do not seem to have the necessary editing skills to become a Teahouse host just yet. Theroadislong (talk) 21:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that the above editor has now been blocked. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 05:32, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Names after flowers
I was just thinking about Keeping up appearances. The four Bucket sisters, Hyacinth Bucket the social climber, Daisy Bucket the comfortable wife of Onslow the slob, Rose Bucket the single woman desperately looking for men and Violet Bucket the rich well-married woman, are all named after flowers.

Are there any male first names named after flowers, in any language? J I P &#124; Talk 23:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I suspect that there will be some Latin names for flowers that might fit the bill but that is just a guess. If you reverse the order of your question there are plenty of flowers (especially roses) named for men. See Garden roses and the section about Canada just below it. Again I know that isn't the answer you are looking for so I look forward to seeing what other editors come up with. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Fiorello La Guardia? Also, from Jared: Alternative suggestions for the name's etymology include words for "rose","servant" and "one who rules".  Neither answer is particularly satisfying. -- ToE 02:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hyacinth (given name) itself has been a male name. Indeed, our list shows 10 men and only 3 women.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  03:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * My three grandkids call me Poppy Jack. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  03:24, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It's trivial to find lists like [//www.momjunction.com/articles/baby-names-inspired-by-flowers_00387996/] [//nameberry.com/nametalk/threads/108887-Boy-flower-names] [//www.todaysparent.com/pregnancy/baby-names/beautiful-flower-names-for-your-baby/] [//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/baby_names/686944-Flower-names-for-boys] [//momion.com/plant-flower-names-for-boys/]. While undoubtedly basil, cedar and shamrock plants have flowers, whether it's accurate to say someone called basil etc is named after a flower, that I'm not so sure. (And I'm fairly sure that shamrock is not the national flower of Ireland, either part National symbols of Ireland, the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland no matter the number of search results that say it is.) Nil Einne (talk) 03:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The leaves are the symbol of Saint Patrick, who used the trefoil as a metaphor for the Holy Trinity.  Alansplodge (talk) 17:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And cedar flowers are not really flowers in the accepted sense. Alansplodge (talk) 17:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah the leaves are an unofficial symbol for Ireland (both parts). The flower not so much. Our article suggests another non native flower is sometimes called the national flower. And about cedar, that's even worse then, I wasn't aware Cedrus and most things commonly called cedar were conifers. That said, as with other common names, there are things sometimes called cedar which aren't. Some sources [//www.utep.edu/herbal-safety/herbal-facts/herbal%20facts%20sheet/trumpet-flower.html] but not our article claim this includes Tecoma stans (sometimes called yellow cedar) who's flower really is the national flower of The Bahamas although they just call it yellow elder [//www.bahamas.gov.bs/wps/portal/public/about%20the%20bahamas/national%20symbols/the%20yellow%20elder%20-%20national%20flower%20of%20the%20bahamas/!ut/p/b1/vZLJcqMwFEW_JR9AEFhgWGJmIwZjMW4oJg_YGIzD-PWddPUi3VWd9KITvZWqjt59OhIZkyEZ39LhfExfzs0tvb7tYzZZAdUUBMiZKgNYoHsOEpy1RtsU8wpEHwAQfHY-IEPsMUhqzKOCRkNlctlCWRpHxElNbOHE68Iynl4gQaGsMGBdc7UOooltq3DQz6dLoz1a8VpXqN53vRA8MpHTt0Pr-zt4qUzNzRNzOAJFHF39Gs07zQtHZFObi0ckR5fm26WQstWmujkUeukqRQ8fpVyGgViZKVZZ-8Qj-2zIapyqTGqx2TRI9LndSi0jhYJB77ljnBYzAlXy0O5Msrrsnp5-OQF_WcI_OIk_RAz6E-BN-0_ggxmiV2D9rgP2AdApILh7agc4iyIxGQKY7Ku51ZfL4laLa2K5RZa0tajO102vcy2sIKvYWJbMGxT2TSy5W7MSRyxPtvVycArf9TaCMKzhLfsz0KYx_xooUqzhMWAP4FcHqozNvTpaY0dgaKDa1HcHrr5VqerY4Mtv-Nungbv__4ZbMj5n9fOY18_gmeNZillzkOdYACG3Jv2rR0z4Yk6SM_toc81iOuuWYymjx4lZIC_nvd7kcU8Mc-6dxDaKHMQcpO5wjMrwrtwPHbL6SlNM3eXCucgKsy36MKDnoCvPTc_6ndJfjE2gcNMqV9BEBVkWIp5lLTXvrK2imjU_3_yeCCc4bbq6IXxBrran6XC-N_vdfWbDhz0OKxyJRa1GMWyDyGauPcBhND8qOh2tJJWEO-_W9wW3QT1rVincy2v0cHLoTy6cVR_nUiIeOyKmpDEZE4MiDtgGsBGDyxNpaU1dkm3tDYh1tSV8V6Xw9APLM3ZW/dl4/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/]. There are a bunch of others in our article like Melia azedarach, white or Ceylon cedar and Toona ciliata with several possible names and interesting enough it seems that Hypsipyla robusta is called the cedar tip moth although it mostly attacks Meliaceae. (I did an internet search for 'cedar flower' before by first reply and got a bunch of flowers and didn't look carefully which meant I was slightly confused at first.) Nil Einne (talk) 05:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Gentian (given name) Robinh (talk) 07:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Gladiolus Amicitia from Final Fantasy XV.
 * The same dab page claims that William Ewart Gladstone went by the pseudonym of "Gladiolus" but his article mentions nothing of the sort. Elizium23 (talk) 07:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. By the way, I originally wrote my question wrong - only Hyacinth's last name is Bucket. The four women are actually the Walton sisters - Hyacinth Walton's last named changed when she married Richard Bucket. J I P &#124; Talk 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Prounouced "Bouquet" of course, so a few more flowers there.--Shantavira|feed me 11:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Mrs Nugent, who was apparently not named after a flower, is the one who refuses to say "Bouquet". 97.82.165.112 (talk) 12:00, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The same basic joke used in the W.C. Fields movie It's a Gift, and probably a lot older than that. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:41, 24 March 2020 (UTC)


 * While Hyacinth has been used as a male name, this may have been (directly or indirectly) after Saint Hyacinth of Caesarea. The martyr may have been named for the mythological Hyakinthos who, according to the myth, gave his name to the flower. The herb gentian (Gentiana lutea) was named by the Romans after Illyrian King Gentius ("Genti" in Albanian). In Albanian it goes by the common name sanëz or agnushe, so I suspect the male given name derives from the ancient king, as implied here. --Lambiam 12:34, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * See also Florian (name) which may or may not be connected with flowers. Alansplodge (talk) 17:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That is useful to know (I checked the derivation before Alansplodge posted).  I understood the word "florid" to mean "ruddy", as in "a florid complexion", but I see there is a link with flowers. 209.93.196.131 (talk) 11:09, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course many flowers, e.g. Fuchsia, are named for male botanists. —Tamfang (talk) 18:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I can't believe nobody's mentioned this yet. :-) Matt Deres (talk) 13:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The English spelling Anthony came about because some antiquarian supposed that Antonius is derived from a Greek word for flower. (My guess: it's Etruscan.) —Tamfang (talk) 18:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

1. Narcissus comes to mind 2. Someone mentioned a character named Gladiolus Amicitia--it means roughly "little friendship sword" and I assume the name refers to the gladius rather than the flower which was named after it. Temerarius (talk) 22:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Has any parent ever inflicted the name of Narcissus on their child (obviously excluding the mythical Greek chap)? Alansplodge (talk) 21:04, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Narciso —Tamfang (talk) 03:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)