Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2021 April 13

= April 13 =

Whole grain
When you have been given a guideline to follow and it’s recommended to eat whole grains does that include or exclude bread Whole grain — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7417:5a00:948c:5d7f:4517:beff (talk) 11:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * The guidance is for any use of grain, such as pasta or bread or whatever, that you use whole grain rather than more processed grains. That would include bread.  Bread specifically is not a dietary requirement, but the guidance is that if you were to choose to eat bread it is more healthy to choose bread made with whole grains.  -- Jayron 32 12:35, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

This is not really a question, but more of a silly thought about the mother of Dance, Isadora Duncan
Can Isadora Duncan be cloned, as when she died, she was only Fifty!

So in the future, is it possible for one of her bone cells to be cloned, or would that be illegal?

Answermeplease11 (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's generally illegal. See Human cloning. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * In the future, who knows? Maybe she could go on Dancing with the Stars. Maybe Sheldon Cooper could grow his own Leonard Nimoy. After all, we are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown ... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. In the meantime, however, my WP:CRYSTALBALL is in for repairs. Clarityfiend (talk) 17:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Failing all that, maybe the OP could develop a clone of Vanessa Redgrave. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

To be clear, Ms Duncan's genes may not be the source of her fame. Nature alone would likely be insufficient, without wholly duplicating her life experience (highly illogical). DOR (HK) (talk) 22:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

greetings !
i dont know where else to ask but it has come to my attention that this article, uhh entry ? has been eddited by a ne'er do well and he messed it up for my whole science class. sorry if this is the wrong place, i just wanted the right people to know

said messed with article VVVVVV List of large volcanic eruptions of the 20th century

sorry to disrupt or be annoying, i just want to help yall out ! good day, stay safe! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabthegreaser (talk • contribs) 17:32, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reporting it, looks like it's under control now though. The vandalism has been reverted. --Viennese Waltz 17:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Gender Police alert. Why does the ne'er-do-well have to be a "he"? Clarityfiend (talk) 18:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems a distinct possibility that the OP knows the identity of the miscreant.
 * Looking at that (apparently static) IP's User Contributions, I can see what look to me at first sight to be a number of questionable edits dating back several years. Would someone else like to check, as I'm not very adept in this area? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.136 (talk) 21:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's probably a school-based IP address; it's likely some different random kids at different times screwing around once in a while. It happens.  I looked at the rate of vandalism; if you group the vandalism in clusters that are obviously the same person screwing around for a few minutes, then it comes out to less than 1 event per year.  Probably not much else worth doing at this point.  -- Jayron 32 11:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

I have an idea for how every cat originated, and how every breed is connected, in my own order. A new cat breed for every ten answers! (or less!)
First, lets start with the Ragdoll, because they are so sweet and cuddly!

To start off, I have a question. Which cat was the Large one, Josephine, or the male cat that she bred with? Because we need to know if Josephine or her mate made the Ragdoll its size.

Now, lets get back to Josephine’s mate!

Josephines mate was probably birman, because they are dog-like, and also come in almost the same pattern as the Ragdoll, definitely meaning that Josephine’s mate was a Birman.

Then, we go on to Josephine, Who was a Persian/Angora type, either meaning that she was a Persian, a Turkish Angora, or a cross between both.

And now, we go back onto the size!

(Short answer, though)

The ancestry or parent of the larger one was either a Maine Coon, a Norwegian Forest Cat, or a Siberian Cat.

So which one do you choose, and read the whole thing!

Lots of ideas,

Answermeplease11 (talk) 21:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Answermeplease11


 * , this does not seem to me to be an appropriate use of the Reference desks, which are intended to find referenced answers to factual questions – "referenced" means that someone with real expertise has already published the relevent facts in a Reliable source such as a book (from a respected publisher) a scientific journal, a professionally edited magazine, or the like.
 * You might be better advised to find an appropriate online forum where you can discuss your ideas with others knowledgeable about the topic. Web-searching "Cat breeding forum" returns a plethora of sites that might be suitable. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.136 (talk) 21:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

If this is not an appropriate use of the Reference desks, should this question be put somewhere else, or should it be deleted?

Answermeplease11 (talk) 21:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Answermeplease11


 * There isn't anywhere on Wikipedia suitable for discussing original ideas, this would come under the heading of WP:Original research which Wikipedia is not intended for and does not allow.
 * However, you should not delete your posts: apart from being a contravention of the Terms of Use you accepted by posting in the first place (look below the Edit summary box), it would be confusing for other users. Also, others may learn something useful about Wikipedia's rules and procedures by reading this conversation. In general, every query and answer on Reference and Help desks may be interesting and/or useful to the many others who will read it beyond the actual participants. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.219.35.136 (talk) 22:02, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I have two questions for you:

1. If I keep on putting my ideas in the reference desk, will I get banned? There are like 41 more breed origins I would like to tell you!

2. Can you please tell me which one was larger, Josephine or her mate.

Answermeplease11 (talk) 22:09, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * If you use the Reference Desk as a medium for 42 of your speculations, you are likely to be banned. Post them on reddit.com/r/cats, or get your own website. —Tamfang (talk) 02:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)


 * 1. Yes you will. This is not the proper forum.
 * 2. The "Helgren2006" reference in Ragdoll was a dead-url, so I have updated it to this archived copy. That article does not describe the sire beyond saying "Josephine and a Birman look-alike owned by the Pennels produced Daddy War Bucks".  If you find a reliable source which better describes the sire you may wish to provide that on the article's talk page for inclusion by an editor.  Note that an article's talk page is for discussing well-sourced improvements to an article; it is not a forum for general discussion or for introduction of original ideas. -- ToE 12:35, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

This painting is way too unsettling, and should be deleted
Well, The first painting,, is modernized instead of being more of an olden times painting, even though its amazingly beautiful.

This painting, is way too unsettling, as it looks like an adult with a child’s head, including the smile.

I believe the second painting, Russian Venus, should be removed from Wikipedia.

Answermeplease11 (talk) 22:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not censored. The image is in the public domain and hosted on Wikimedia Commons. It is used in about 39 different language versions of Wikipedia. It is not going to be deleted even though you don't like it. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  22:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The user's characterization of File:Kustodiev russian venus.jpg is bizarre. Meanwhile, File:Szyndler_Eve.jpg is somewhat unsettling as it looks like it could be a Kardashian. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Some people will find File:Szyndler_Eve.jpg is somewhat unsettling because she somehow got a belly button.--Shantavira|feed me 08:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I find Screamer way too unsettling. Can we get rid of that too? Temerarius (talk) 01:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A lot of us find this character way too unsettling. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I find people who want to remove things from public view because they find them unsettling to be unsettling. Can I delete you?  -- Jayron 32 11:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

No, No, No!!!! You may not delete me, because I would be dead!

Answermeplease11 (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC) Answermeplease11
 * Yet you're willing to kill off a totally innocent painting. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)