Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2021 January 7

= January 7 =

Why do award winners logo have feathers both sides?
See this image Its ICC awards but I find this feathers on so many awards.

I highlighted feathers. I want to know use of it. Is there any wiki article exist to explain this. Rizosome (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * These are not feathers. Try laurel wreath or palm branch. --Wrongfilter (talk) 14:27, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * "I extend you this laurel, and hearty handshake..." ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Leaves are tree feathers. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Luckily for us, trees, like ostriches, cannot fly. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)


 * In this context these clearly represent the two strands of a laurel wreath, traditionally used to crown the winner of a contest. The symbolism is enhanced by the gilding. In the symbolic representation of a palm branch as a symbol of peace, often carried by a dove as seen here, the branch is usually single and not symmetrically paired. Even without the symbolic context, the two can be distinguished by the shape of the leaves; those of a palm branch are slender in comparison to the laurel leaves. --Lambiam 06:45, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the dove is carrying an olive branch (which has similar symbolism). Iapetus (talk) 10:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think you're right and I was wrong. --Lambiam 21:37, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Pension insurance for the UK population over time?
Are there sources of how the percentage of pension insurance in the UK population has changed from as early as possible to today? Desirably as much detail as possible about time data. --Vyacheslav84 (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It would be unusual to call pension provision in the UK a "pension insurance". It's more commonly called a pension plan - i.e. a means of saving to provide a pension in retirement.  Is this what you're referring to?--Phil Holmes (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * "National Insurance" is the term used for the Government-run scheme that all UK workers (and their employers, both compulsorily) contribute to in order to receive the UK State Pension and other benefits.
 * Pensions in the United Kingdom may give the OP possible avenues of exploration, though it does not in itself answer the historical question. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.161.137 (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to be picky - UK workers do not pay NI until their earnings reach the "primary threshold" (currently £183 per week) and employers do not pay NI until their employee's earnings reach the "secondary threshold" (Currently £169 per week). Rates and allowances: National Insurance contributions--Phil Holmes (talk) 10:04, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * True, but in those circumstances they are still registered and, in effect, credited with making contributions (of £0) that count towards their eventual state pension entitlement, which requires 35 years of full contributions (at the rates required of their income in each financial year) for them to receive the full amount. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.40.9 (talk) 17:13, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * If an employee earns less than the Lower Earnings Limit (LEL) (currently £120) they get no contribution towards benefits, including pension. See National Insurance Thresholds for example.--Phil Holmes (talk) 11:23, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Fair point: I was implicitly thinking about full-time employees. An adult earning £120 or less a week would be working less than 16 hours (since the legal Minimum Wage is currently £7.70 for even the youngest adults). Part-time working, the "gig economy" and zero hours contracts rather complicate the issue, which however is somewhat astray from the OP's original query. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.40.9 (talk) 19:56, 11 January 2021 (UTC)