Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2021 May 25

= May 25 =

Influencers
How many views does a YouTube Poster need to have in order to become significant enough to have a Wikipedia page? What is the criteria for an influencer to have a Wikipedia page? An example of which would be "Sue and Sam" as they are affectionately known (Slick Slime Sam 6.83 million subscribers). There is no Wikipedia page for these people, yet they have a multitude of following and almost every child I know watches their videos.

I ask particularly for this, channel, as I would like to know who these people are.

Thank you. -- 2a00:23c6:6884:6200:18a6:1c47:745a:430d


 * The number of views on Youtube (or any other video site) is irrelevant in establishing someone's notablity. You will find the Wikipedia policy on people's notability at Notability (people).--Shantavira|feed me 07:59, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * What makes a person notable enough for a Wikipedia article is that there is, out there in the world outside of Wikipedia, enough other people who have written about that person, in independent reliable sources, that we have enough source text to use to help us learn enough about a person to write a decent article about them. The key things are 1) independent 2) reliable and 3) enough to write a good article.  The number of views is unimportant.  If someone has a billion views, but no one has ever written anything about them before, then Wikipedia won't have an article about that person.  Conversely, there are even people who don't even have a YouTube channel that have Wikipedia articles.  The reason for this is because those people have enough good source text (i.e. enough written about them already) that someone can use that text to learn about them enough to write a Wikipedia article.  See this page for more about that.  -- Jayron 32 11:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * They are just characters, not influencers. The channel is owned and operated by a major company, TheSoul Publishing, a digital studio that also owns the 5-Minute Crafts channel. Their headquarters are in Limassol, Cyprus. It appears that the company is notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia, which then could have a section devoted to Slick Slime Sam. The Slick Slime Sam page on fandom.com lists 25 other YouTube channels of TheSoul Publishing. (This is not what we call a reliable source for information that can be used in an article.) It seems that Vanessa Marroquin is the voice actor behind Sue and Sam, but this is also not a "reliable source" in the Wikipedia sense. Presumably, the human hands seen in the videos belong to a different actor or actors. If someone feels inclined to investigate further, some leads are that an interview with TheSoul Publishing's COO Arthur Mamedow states it is a somewhat distributed company, managing teams across multiple countries, altogether a 1,500-person team with more than 1,000 remote creative personnel. Victor Potrel is its VP of Platform Partnerships.  --Lambiam 09:27, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This blog post gives some more info, also mentioning Pavel Radaev as CEO and Marat Mukhametov as CEO/Co-Founder. (The roots of the company appear to lie in Russia.) --Lambiam 09:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Are blogs considered reliable sources? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Definitely not, see WP:UGC. --Viennese Waltz 18:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Is this a rhetorical question? There is no way a seasoned editor like BB could not already know the answer. The references were meant to be leads for whoever "feels inclined to investigate further", as stated earlier. This specific lead easily leads one to this message, which (for the purpose of identifying these gentlemen in these roles) may be considered reliable. --Lambiam 08:27, 26 May 2021 (UTC)