Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2022 August 17

= August 17 =

Can I use a ride share service to go from Vancouver area in BC to Seattle?
I can't drive and I would like to go to Seattle but not use a bus because I think it could take a long time at the border. Is ridesharing a better idea? 2001:569:7D9A:1300:9561:79CC:EE38:648A (talk) 00:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Quick google search suggests that in practice US-Canada cross-border rideshares are fine and both Uber and Lyft drivers do them (but from another tripadvisor thread, they likely will refuse if the border is backed up, for obvious reasons) -- the drivers require an enhanced license and you'll still get stopped. However apparently the policy of both companies is that drivers may not do so (yet the apps don't prevent it, as of that 2018 post at least -- there was a recent Uber border smuggling bust however so that might have changed). I guess if the border's backed up, the border's backed up -- if you're in a hurry hail an autogyro. SamuelRiv (talk) 00:51, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Note incidentally that this trip is not just a border crossing, but requires at least 3 hours of driving in addition. --174.95.81.219 (talk) 21:26, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Besides the above, you'll also need to have the correct documentation yourself to legally enter the U.S. This page from the US Embassy in Canada contains useful information on how to properly cross the border.  -- Jayron 32 12:19, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've made the journey by train a few years ago and it was very pleasant. You didn't have to wait long at the border and the views of the coast were stunning. A lot of people at the Vancouver terminal were taking the bus, which I understand is slightly faster point to point. Blythwood (talk) 02:38, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the train isn't operating at present. I wanted to book it for one day next month, but couldn't. When I asked why, Amtrak's response was "The USA/Canada border between Seattle, WA and Vancouver, BC is still closed to train service." Now I'm booked on the bus. HiLo48 (talk) 03:49, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Antonym of raspberry sound
Does the raspberry sound have an antonym? If so, what is it? 2601:18A:C500:C00:6CD4:725F:B02F:CDC5 (talk) 00:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The bilabial click can universally (afaik) signal affection, and the voiced uvular trill in English can signal erotic affection (or at least it did in Wayne's World) SamuelRiv (talk) 01:10, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * An antonym means that a word has a strictly opposite meaning. Not every word has one, and meaningless sounds certainly don't.  I'm not sure what you are looking for when you ask for the "antonym".  Can you elaborate so we can help you find the information you seek?  -- Jayron 32 11:44, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The raspberry sound is not meaningless. If it were, I would not be asking for its antonym. 2601:18A:C500:C00:F414:6308:1CFF:AF06 (talk) 18:47, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It has a meaning, but it's not a word. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:58, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * After talking to my behaviorist, it seems I need a new sound that is neither the raspberry sound nor [this walrus vowel]. She says, "The raspberry is old. The walrus is old." That is the reason for my request for an antonym for the raspberry sound. 2601:18A:C500:C00:D119:C7C:C529:C2D7 (talk) 04:18, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you sure it's not a synonym you're after? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * What we are trying to tell you is that "the antonym of the raspberry sound" is a nonsensical thing. It doesn't have an antonym.  Your request makes absolutely no sense.  Also, we have no way to interpret what your behaviorist meant when they told you what they told you.  There is only one person in the whole world who could help you figure out what they meant, and that is the behaviorist themselves.  Ask them what they meant.  -- Jayron 32 12:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * In physical terms, the raspberry involves blowing air out through vibrating lips: arguably the opposite would be drawing air in through still lips, which in Western cultures often denotes surprised distress, such as when one sees someone have a sudden accident.
 * In semantic terms, a raspberry expresses derision, as the article says. What would the antonym of this be? Google yields one list comprising admiration, approval, flattery, love, praise, respect, compliment, adulation. Wordless sounds used to express these likely differ from culture to culture: what sounds,, do you or other Connecticutians (?) make to express those? (That was a rhetorical question, don't feel obliged to post an answer.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.121.96 (talk) 14:08, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Is the opposite of love hate or is it indifference. On what axis (affection or intensity) are we assessing the opposition?  Many qualities exist on multiple axis, and some don't exist on any such axis.  If a razzberry is intended to express derision, is the opposite of that admiration?  I don't know, language isn't always so binary.  And the OP still hasn't indicated whether he means the semantic meaning, or the physical action?  Razzberries involve multiple actions that could have "opposites".  Are we doing the opposite of exhaling?  Are we doing the opposite of buzzing?  Both?  -- Jayron 32 16:09, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The razz is also known as the "Bronx cheer". The "antonym" of a negative cheer would be a positive cheer. Meanwhile, we'll see if the OP comes back here, so we'll know which kind of cheer to send to him. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * A Staten Island boo? -- Jayron 32 18:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sociology abstract: Upon seeing somebody have a sudden accident, is it less correct to blow a raspberry, or to make the voiced uvular trill? Results so far have been inconclusive. Card Zero  (talk) 18:46, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * People my age may remember these sounds as an antonym of a blowing a raspberry :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:55, 17 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Interestingly, "raspberry" seems to be the only example of rhyming slang to have been adopted into American English ("raspberry tart" = "fart"). Alansplodge (talk) 12:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Another one in America (kind of old-fashioned) is "dukes" for "fists". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:54, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I stand corrected, although there are other suggested etymologies for that one. Alansplodge (talk) 12:33, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Those competing etymologies will just have to duke it out. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:09, 19 August 2022 (UTC)