Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2022 September 30

= September 30 =

Florida disaster preparations
Has the florida state government been investing in preparedness for hurricanes and mandating building and infrastructure codes to better withstand the harsh conditions like flooding and high winds that happen during hurricanes?Rich (talk) 01:37, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. Can you explain why you believe that the state government has been doing nothing at all? If you can explain where your delusion comes from, we might have a chance of providing a pertinent answer. 97.82.165.112 (talk) 13:16, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You are putting words in my mouth. I never said that.Rich (talk) 14:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You asked a "yes/no" question. The obvious answer is "yes." So, the only reason to ask is if you believe the answer is "no." Why do you think it is "no?" 97.82.165.112 (talk) 16:12, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You are doing more of the same, unpleasantly claiming to know what I really mean when i said nothing of the kind. It's your delusion,(not mine)or else you're plain bogus. You should not be volunteering at the reference desk. Rich (talk) 21:25, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A very quick search turned up this web site: which seems to include lots of relevant information. I am sure there is other information available if you dig a little. --Xuxl (talk) 15:23, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I do appreciate what you've found for me! But i presumed that the reference has volunteers who are better than average at doing that kind of digging and enjoy finding the stuff out and answering the question. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds as if you think i should have done that "very quick search" myself along the rest of the "digging" for other information that you proposed that i do. So you've pointed me in the direction of finding an answer)without giving an answer) and suggested i should do the rest of the research (if not all of it) myself. If you think research is so easy for everyone, and you just want to tell people to do their own research, then why are you here? Rich (talk) 17:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You asked a "yes/no" question. The very first answer given was "Yes." That's the answer. Everything else is above and beyond what you asked. If you asked a different question, such as "In what ways has Florida State invested in preparedness for hurricanes?" you would get a completely different answer. If you want us to make up a question and answer it, then do not respond with "You are putting words in my mouth." 97.82.165.112 (talk) 18:59, 30 September 2022


 * The website I linked indicates that the state of Florida had a whole department dedicated to emergency preparedness and includes loads of informatikon on what it does. That answers your question. If you have a follow-up question, please ask it. Xuxl (talk) 19:57, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry Xuxl! i meant say the other poster was being bogus(and unpleasant), not you. "That's bogus" might have briefly appeared under your answer, my error. Rich (talk) 21:28, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The question also asks whether the Florida State government has been mandating building and infrastructure codes to better withstand hurricane conditions. Stating that the answer is apodictally "yes" implies having specific knowledge to this effect; one's mere lack of belief to the contrary, as implied in 97.82.165.112's unhelpful replies, does not make the cut. Roaming the somewhat labyrinthine website of FloridaDisaster.org did not readily reveal an answer. --Lambiam 09:25, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Here are a couple of articles regarding Florida's building code: and . To summarize, following Hurricane Andrew in 1992, the code was revised to include stronger measures for hurricane protection. However, it is not retroactive, and is not applied uniformly across the state (southern Florida is considered more hurricane-prone and includes more robust measures, but the latest storm hit a number of normally less-affected areas where the code is more permissive). Anyway, there's some useful information there. Xuxl (talk) 13:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Ukraine referendum results
What were the results of the 4 Ukraine referendums as reported in Russia? I know it's all a sham but I'm looking for the official reported results. 163.202.51.15 (talk) 12:25, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * "I know it's all a sham..." Got an independent, reliable source for that statement? HiLo48 (talk) 23:07, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Huh? Surely you're not saying we should consider this illegal annexation legitimate unless we can find proof to the contrary? --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No. You can consider it whatever you like, as shall I, but we do try to be a respectable encyclopaedia here, using reliable, independent sourcing, and on matters such as this, it's not easy to find. HiLo48 (talk) 23:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's an easy one: "Russia’s sham referendums in occupied Ukraine pave way for annexation" from the Financial Times, the most objective of British broadsheets and a newspaper of record. Alansplodge (talk) 10:09, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Publishing a headline like that is not a good way to demonstrate that it is objective. Opinions in headlines aren't a good look. HiLo48 (talk) 21:11, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The legitimacy or lack thereof of the referenda is of purely academic interest. It won't matter either way when the war is over. Ukraine will lose or not lose territory and Russia will gain or not gain territory with no reference to these votes. I don't understand this obsession everyone here seems to have with whether any of this is legal or illegal under international law. Putin DOESN'T CARE. He will take whatever he can get away with. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 19:36, 1 October 2022 (UTC)


 * 2022 annexation referendums in Russian-occupied Ukraine WHAAOE! AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 15:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What did they do to the small fraction who voted "No"? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:37, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Private point of view: if it was a legal referendum in a democratic society 'they' woulnd't do anything; they wouldn't even want to; OTOH if it wasn't, 'they' will never officially admit they did anything. So I would not expect any reliable answer to your question. --CiaPan (talk) 09:43, 1 October 2022 (UTC)