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= August 26 =

Borders of the State of the Teutonic Order
Hello. All sources say that the whole of Neumark was east of the Oder River. However, the map File:Teutonic_Order_1410.png says that Neumark was the easternmost possession of the state of the Teutonic Order, but at the same time, pieces of land to the west of the Oder River are visible on the map. How to understand this contradiction? Vyacheslav84 (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The corresponding Polish article says that Neumark was under Teutonic rule between 1402 and 1454, having swore an oath of fiefdom on August 9th 1402. I'm too tired to search further, even though this is my country's history. --Ouro (blah blah) 20:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I think you must mean that ". . . Neumark was the westernmost possession . . .".
 * In Neumark we read "At the time of the Neumark's greatest territorial extent (at the end of the 17th century), the region included, , ,". This implies that the territory of Neumark grew over time – perhaps those unspecified sources refer to times before the (relatively small) areas west of the Oder were acquired?
 * Also, statements that "all Neumark was east of the Oder" might not be intending absolute precision, particularly if any small parts west of the Oder were considered insignificant by the writer.
 * Another possibility is that the course of the river changed a little and the parts that had been east of it but now were west of it remained part of Neumark. Such things have happened elsewhere. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 01:58, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

why the excitement of wanting to do sex doesn't correlate with the excitement of doing it?
when talking about stuff you have two things, the excitement that makes you want to do x and the excitement (or lack of) when doing x. if you have excitement when doing x, it will translate into future excitement of wanting to do x (until you stop having excitement when doing x, you got bored of it). why this doenst apply to sex? why someone can have the multiple times best sex ever at his opinion with person y, but after a time not have the excitement needed to do with person y (while still believing at the excitement you have when doing it with person y)? 191.241.79.6 (talk) 19:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * What is the basis for your premise, aside from personal experience? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:08, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The article about Sexual attraction declares it to be "a subjective measure dependent on another person's interest, perception, and Sexual orientation." The OP seeks explanation of the experience of sexual satiation with an initially exciting person y. Beyond recognizing the impracticality of y sustaining perpetual coitus with anyone we find few explanatory references beyond the jocular "Coolidge effect" or Lord Chesterfield's wistful conclusion: "Sex: the pleasure is momentary, the position ridiculous, and the expense damnable." Philvoids (talk) 11:32, 27 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Speaking more broadly, this sounds like an instance of perception (or anticipation) and reality not matching. I'm struggling to find a suitable article. But, the nub of it likely has to do with the hypothetical event being flawless while the actual event usually can't achieve that perfection and so seems diminished. With regards to sex, there's all kind of things that can cause that: mood, energy, etc. You might be anticipating the perfect burger - you can picture it in your mind, taste the flavour, etc. but the actual burger won't be quite up to that mark. Maybe there's a bit too much grease, maybe the bun is a little stale, maybe the wait was too long - or maybe no burger has ever tasted as good as what you imagined this one to be. Matt Deres (talk) 17:27, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You said the reverse of what I was talking about, the final product is considered the best ever but despise that somehow you dont have the antecipation needed to actually go and get this final product. This antecipation stops before the final product lose its value and become boring.177.207.101.179 (talk) 17:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * In that case, Depression (mood) might be relevant. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.194.81.165 (talk) 22:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The response (excitation) to the stimulus (anticipation of sexual coupling with person X) is innate and not mediated by learning. See further Habituation. --Lambiam 05:55, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It sounds to me like the user is describing classical habituation. Variety is important, just like with anything else. I love pizza, but I couldn't eat it every day because I would go crazy.  It's also something couples learn to control to increase their intimacy.  For example, having a date night, movie night, etc.  I've often hypothesized that the failure to mediate anticipation is due to one or the other person having various levels of aphantasia.  Just my own pet theory, of course. Viriditas (talk) 02:08, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * As a Gray-ace, look into Fraysexuality or perhaps Aegosexuality. 50.101.173.184 (talk) 11:37, 2 September 2023 (UTC)